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brooklyn13

01/31/22 6:35 AM

#399554 RE: B402 #399550

I wonder if you do pay for it, WV is one of the red states that gets back more in Fed money than they pay in taxes. How are these things financed?

https://nieer.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/West-Virginia_YB2018.pdf

I agree about Pelosi and trading stocks, it's disgraceful.

Manchin's no coal baron?

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/joe-manchin-s-coal-ties-are-worse-we-thought-yet-n1285934

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/joe-manchin-s-coal-ties-are-worse-we-thought-yet-n1285934

Ok, maybe not a coal baron, strictly speaking, but pretty, pretty close
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blackhawks

01/31/22 6:54 AM

#399561 RE: B402 #399550

You keep claiming that Manchin was lied to, and presumably he misled no one. What is your support for that?

If it's Manchin himself, why is that a credible claim from him?

As for Manchin insisting on paying for the benefits you listed, that they're completely paid for in WV? Not quite, for reasons you've read here many times now.

Federal Dependency Rankings by State


To find the states in the U.S. that were most dependent on the federal government in 2021, MoneyGeek analyzed the return on taxes sent to the federal government and the percent of each state’s revenue provided by the federal government. We also compared states by political affiliation and per capita GDP to learn more about the factors that contribute to federal dependency.


WV is the 2nd most dependent state.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/

Red States Lead With Federal Dependence

Democratic-voting blue states tend to be wealthier and pay more to the federal government than they get. In contrast, Republican-voting red states tend to have less wealth and receive more federal government funds than they pay. In the MoneyGeek rankings, 8 of the 10 most dependent states are considered red states.

Policy choices may partially explain this relationship.

"A really conservative state might choose to tax itself at a lower rate, which means by default, they can give fewer state-funded services," explains Kathy Fallon, human services practice area director at Public Consulting Group. "That can exacerbate the situation."

But a correlation between states' economic health and political affiliation may reflect economic factors beyond those explained by political philosophy.

"If red states pay less in taxes than they receive in benefits, that's because they are generally poorer and program rules are progressive — not because they are 'takers' while blue states are 'donors' in any value-laden sense," says Mark Shepard, assistant professor at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government and faculty research fellow at the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER).

Higher GDP Equals Less Federal Dependence

MoneyGeek analysis shows that states with higher per capita GDP are less dependent on the federal government.

"Higher-income states produce the majority of the tax dollars that go into the federal government's pocket," Fallon says. Because of the higher income, states and their residents need less support and use fewer federal dollars.

Fallon noted that tax code changes have made wealthy states' contributions more pronounced.

"Before, people who paid large state income taxes would deduct those from their federal tax payments," she says. Now, state tax deductions are capped. "Ironically, it means the wealthier states' populations are paying even more."