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[oystersnbeer]

If Trump lies, he’s screwed.
If Trump tells the truth, he’s screwed.
Trump is screwed.

Trump is Americas biggest liar.
Trump is Americas biggest loser.
Trump is Americas biggest disgrace.

[Zorax]

Interestingly, frump, in some links on this board and also websites that listed it, once stated he is pondering what it takes to pardon himself and family.
If one is totally innocent, why would the thoughts of pardoning yourself even surface.

And is it not the first thought of any sane person reading those comments by frump .. "what is he pardoning himself from"?

In any normal universe not undermined every day by the gop, how can this not be understood as an admittance of guilt.

[fuagf]

Donald Trump loses court bid to block release of documents relating to January 6 insurrection

"Cheney warns of consequences for Trump in dealings with Jan. 6 committee
"Why the Jan. 6 panel is on the clock" "

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2 hours ago


Former president Donald Trump argued that executive privilege prevented his documents being made public.
(AP: Alex Brandon)

Donald Trump has lost his attempt to shield documents from the House committee investigating the January 6 insurrection at the Capitol.

Key points:

* Donald Trump sued the White House to stop the National Archives releasing documents from his presidency

* Three appeals court judges ruled that executive privilege protects "the presidency itself, not former president Trump individually"

* Mr Trump is expected to appeal to the Supreme Court, where a majority of judges were appointed by Republicans

In a 68-page ruling, a three-judge federal appeals court panel tossed aside Mr Trump's various arguments for using executive privilege .. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-19/trump-january-6-congress-bannon-committee-biden/100547050 .. to block the release of records that the committee regards as vital to its investigation into the run-up to the deadly riot.

The committee is investigating the events on January 6, when Trump supporters stormed the Capitol as Congress was meeting to certify President Joe Biden's election victory, delaying that process for several hours as then-vice president Mike Pence, members of Congress, staff, and journalists fled from rioters.

Judge Patricia Millett, writing for the court, said Congress had "uniquely vital interests" in studying the events of January 6 and said Mr Biden had made a "carefully reasoned" determination that the documents were in the public interest and that executive privilege should therefore not be invoked.

Mr Trump also failed to show any harm that would occur from the release of the sought-after records, Justice Millett wrote.

"On the record before us, former president Trump has provided no basis for this court to override President Biden's judgement and the agreement and accommodations worked out between the political branches over these documents," the opinion says.

It adds: "Both branches agree that there is a unique legislative need for these documents and that they are directly relevant to the committee's inquiry into an attack on the legislative branch and its constitutional role in the peaceful transfer of power."


On January 6, 2021, violent insurrectionists loyal to President Donald Trump broke into the US Capitol building to prevent Joe Biden from being declared president.(AP: Jose Luis Magana)

The appeals court ruled that the injunction preventing the National Archives from turning over the documents will expire in two weeks, or when the Supreme Court rules on an expected appeal from Mr Trump, whichever is later.

Lawyers for Mr Trump can also ask the entire appeals court to review the case.

Seven of the 11 appellate judges on the court were appointed by Democratic presidents, four by Republican presidents.

Trump spokeswoman Liz Harrington said after the ruling: "Regardless of today's decision by the appeals court, this case was always destined for the Supreme Court.

"President Trump's duty to defend the constitution and the office of the presidency continues, and he will keep fighting for every American and every future administration."

The court wrote: "The privilege being asserted is not a personal privilege belonging to former president Trump; he stewards it for the benefit of the Republic.

"The interests the privilege protects are those of the presidency itself, not former president Trump individually. And the President [Biden] has determined that immediate disclosure will promote, not injure, the national interest, and that delay here is itself injurious."

What to know about Trump's January 6 lawsuit
Former US president Donald Trump is suing to stop President Joe Biden
from releasing documents about the January 6 attacks on Congress.
Read more > https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-19/trump-january-6-congress-bannon-committee-biden/100547050

The court also praised Mr Biden's "calibrated judgement" in working with Congress and the Archives to weigh privilege concerns, saying it "bears no resemblance to the 'broad and limitless waiver' of executive privilege former president Trump decries."

Mr Biden had the committee defer its requests for some of the early documents that might have posed privilege claims, and officials expect more documents in subsequent tranches will be subject to the same outcome.

The House committee did not immediately respond to a request for comment but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi released a statement saying: "Today, the courts have once again rejected the former president's campaign to obstruct Congress's investigation into the January 6th insurrection.

"No-one can be allowed to stand in the way of the truth — particularly not the previous president, who incited the insurrection."

White House spokesman Mike Gwin said: "As President Biden determined, the constitutional protections of executive privilege should not be used to shield information that reflects a clear and apparent effort to subvert the constitution itself."

Mr Trump sued the House January 6 committee and the National Archives to stop the White House from allowing the release of documents related to the insurrection.

Mr Biden, as the current office holder, had waived Mr Trump's executive privilege claims.


The court praised Joe Biden's "calibrated judgement".(AP: Evan Vucci)

At issue, the court said, is not that Mr Trump "has no say in the matter" but his failure to show that withholding the documents should supersede Mr Biden's "considered and weighty judgement" that congress is entitled to them.

The National Archives has said that the records Mr Trump wants to block include presidential diaries, visitor logs, speech drafts, handwritten notes "concerning the events of January 6" from the files of former chief of staff Mark Meadows, and "a draft Executive Order on the topic of election integrity".

Arguing for the committee, US House lawyer Douglas Letter argued that the determination of a current president should outweigh predecessors in almost all circumstances and noted that both Mr Biden and Congress were in agreement that the January 6 records should be turned over.

All three of the appeals court judges who heard the arguments were nominated by Democrats. Judge Millett and Judge Robert Wilkins were nominated by former president Barack Obama.

Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson is a Biden appointee seen as a contender for a Supreme Court seat should one open during the current administration.

Republican presidents nominated six of the nine Supreme Court justices, including three chosen by Mr Trump.

AP

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-10/donald-trump-loses-bid-to-block-release-of-january-6-documents/100690036

See also:

Mark Meadows Provided the January 6 Committee With a Truly Insane Document
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