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[fuagf]

rooster, Wrong on both counts.

AP FACT CHECK: The energy boom didn’t start with Trump

By CALVIN WOODWARDDecember 19, 2017

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A look at some of Trump’s statements in a national security speech:

TRUMP: “They put American energy under lock and key.”

THE FACTS: On the contrary, energy production was unleashed during Obama’s presidency, largely because of advances in hydraulic fracturing that made it economical to tap vast reserves of natural gas. Oil production also greatly increased, reducing imports. Before the presidential election last year, the U.S. for the first time in decades was getting more energy domestically than it imports. The government estimated this year that the U.S. could switch from being a net importer of energy to being a net exporter as early as 2019, depending on what happens to oil prices, energy resources and economic growth.

Trump, a Republican, has rolled back some obstacles for the coal industry, which indeed complained of overregulation by Obama, a Democrat. But coal’s decline in recent years was driven mainly by competition from cheap natural gas.

Despite his rhetoric about U.S. energy production, one of Trump’s most consequential actions as president has been to open the U.S. to another source of foreign oil, with his approval of the Keystone XL pipeline from Canada.

Obama’s two-term predecessor, Republican George W. Bush, was no adversary of the energy industry. Neither president put energy “under lock and key.”

https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-business-barack-obama-politics-588d1d2ed42143b6b97a25fa2b7d573e

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Achieve energy independence
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1359/achieve-energy-independence/

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Is Trump Responsible for Falling Gasoline Prices?

By Robert Farley
Posted on November 28, 2018

With gasoline prices plummeting, President Donald Trump gave himself a third-person pat on the back via Twitter: “thank you President T.”

Energy experts say the decline in prices is largely motivated by market forces outside the president’s control. But experts attribute at least part of the recent drop to the Trump administration’s decision to soften hard-line sanctions against Iran — allowing waivers for eight countries to buy oil from Iran.

Blaming or crediting a president for rising or falling gasoline prices is a regular, bipartisan political ploy. In May, we wrote that Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer placed too much blame on Trump for rising gasoline prices at the time. President Barack Obama also found himself a frequent target of partisan attacks for rising gas prices.

More - https://www.factcheck.org/2018/11/is-trump-responsible-for-falling-gasoline-prices/

[newmedman]

That's bullshit and if you have half a brain you would know that.

Tell me, what does energy independent mean?

Then tell me who controls the gas prices?

Then explain what the hurricanes in the gulf this year have to do with all of that.

I know it's above your head but I'm forcing you to dig deeper (pun intended)

You are the lost little sheep looking for a flock and have no true understanding of how the world continues to revolve around at 1000 miles per hour with you standing stagnant holding your MAGA hat in one hand and your dick in the other.

and what the fuck do you care about gasoline prices? Do you think that people who live below or at poverty level all own cars, trucks or boats and are just waiting for the day that the refineries start to hum again?

You're a clueless fool but I do appreciate you for trying to answer my question in a way that proves Trumpty didn't do shit for anyone except himself.

Yawl come back now, ya hear.