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10/17/21 10:51 PM

#388405 RE: zab #388402

LOL Your first three links were more arguments for the cancelled keystone than much else.

Still it's a good idea to encourage conix to read more outside her usual haunts.

That aside here is one little fact i hadn't seen before:

Indeed, one study found that between 2007 and 2010, pipelines moving tar sands oil in Midwestern states spilled three times more per mile than the U.S. national average for pipelines carrying conventional crude. Since it first went into operation in 2010, TC Energy’s original Keystone Pipeline System has leaked more than a dozen times; one incident in North Dakota sent a 60-foot, 21,000-gallon geyser of tar sands oil spewing into the air. Most recently, on October 31, 2019, the Keystone tar sands pipeline was temporarily shut down after a spill in North Dakota of reportedly more than 378,000 gallons. And the risk that Keystone XL will spill has only been heightened: A study published in early 2020, co-authored by TC Energy’s own scientists, found that the anti-corrosion coating on pipes for the project is defective from being stored outside and exposed to the elements for the last decade.

What Is the Keystone XL Pipeline?
How a single pipeline project became the epicenter of an enormous environmental, public health, and civil rights battle.
January 20, 2021 Melissa Denchak
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/what-keystone-pipeline

From there also, this is good to see:

“So what if there’s no pipeline . . .Big Oil will find a way.”

One of the central arguments by pipeline pushers is that tar sands expansion will move forward with or without Keystone XL. This has proved to be untrue .. https://www.nrdc.org/experts/anthony-swift/two-billion-reasons-tar-sands-wont-move-rail-after-keystone-xls-rejection . Dealing in tar sands oil is an expensive endeavor. It’s costly both to produce and to ship, particularly by rail, which would be an alternative to Keystone XL. Indeed, moving crude by rail to the Gulf costs twice as much as by pipe. For companies considering whether to invest in a long-lived tar sands project (which could last for 50 years), access to cheap pipeline capacity will play a major role in the decision to move forward or not. Without Keystone XL, the tar sands industry has canceled projects rather than shift to rail, subsequently leaving more of the earth’s dirtiest fuel in the ground where it belongs.


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Zorax

10/18/21 12:47 AM

#388412 RE: zab #388402

Yeah, what I said. The stinkin oil company ran into major roadblocks in Canada itself to install the east/west pipe they wanted so they thought they could just shove it down the American peoples throats. Wonder if tRump gave them back all that pac and kickback money they paid him to keep the keystone active.
Keystone will try again for American path.
All about costing the oil companies money to pay off all the lobbyists and senators plus canadian politicians but they don't want to spend it.

Keystone was literally 75% passed behind closed republiqan doors. And you can bet mitch and munchkin were raking it in too.