I still don't understand how you can pin what happened with OW on Ziv? The evidence is clear. Pignitz ran the show. Pignitz hired lackeys to continue pumping the scam while at the sametime letting Ziv go.
It was Pignitz and Massive Value Hirsch telling everyone how great OW is going to be. It was Pignitz and Massive Value that got OW into DGF, so how on earth you pin it on Ziv?
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