Replies to post #3008 on The Free Zone Board

[the8thtower]

Communism as a Viable Doctrine:

It doesn't work. Human nature being what it is. Eventually, the 'for the good of the proletariat' becomes 'how can I get a better apartment, clothes, car, for me'.
I was laughted at, way back in HS because I told them it (communism) simply couldn't endure. (Where ever my history teacher is now, I hope his face is red, no pun intended)
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I do not agree that fanatics are the problem. I
believe 'fanatics' are people fallen prey to propaganda.
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Of course they are. Doesn't matter where they get it. From a book or at the feet of teacher or person speaking "in the name of God'. They are weak minded or mentally ill. Propaganda starts at the cradle in most circumstances. We immerse our children at birth in religion. We are litterally deluged with propaganda every day.
Coke is 'real thing' so obviously Pepsi is not. Buy Gap pants and by gosh you'll be young and attractive (and be able to dance like a son of a gun).
I was flipping thru the channels one day and heard a preacher giving a sermon. I flipped thru about 10 more channels before his words registered. I went back to see if I was having an hallucination. Nope there he was preaching and thumping his Bible for all it was worth. His message? All races with dark skins should be erradicated or sent back to Africa. That's when I realized that God had gone on a road trip. Otherwise he would have shoved a lightening bolt up the Nazi Preachers butt.

[Neuromancer]

Re: eris: crumedgeons, antisemites, racist, etc.

Communism doesn't really threaten democracy - not by definition. It threatens profits.

Um... no.

Any new political system threatens only one thing, those in power under the old system.

So American youth are trained to want to destroy all communism

ROTFL. With nano-second attention spans and an education system that largely consists of hanging out at the mall this does't seem much like a very formidable army. Unless you want to count all that mall time as "capitalist indoctrination", I'd have to say that exactly the opposite is true.

Young students today are taught that trees and wild animals are good and big companies are bad. Ask any ten high school graduates in my state who was President during the Civil War and sixty percent of them will give you answers like George Washington or Martin Luther King. Ask the same group the words to the latest Marlyn Manson ditty and you are likely to get a verbatim rendition from all ten.

One simply cannot train the untrainable.

I believe what will end these situations is a tremendous cultural/social mindset shift, not a political one.

Incidentally, the nutcase-religious right has exactly the same mantra.

(Which would result in most of the top offices in the US government not being occupied by corporate interests...)

Yeah, right. That along with a double order of thermal underwear to help protect the inhabitants of Hades from getting a chill.