conix, You are a surface skimmer. We know you would base ALL your opinion on those two on the basis of the conservative pictures you have been drawn. You have no credibility on any comments about them if you haven't actually read much of what they have written.
Would you like to dispute that one little factoid i just gave you that Angela gave me some 50 or so years ago? Research it. That the banks of Harlem took heaps out and put little if any at the beginning back in.
Your replies to me here today are even more pitiful than your usual.
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