I did not know there was anyway you could even guess if Google is profitable or not, I have no way of guessing what their business model is. I am not sure why you include JCOM on that list, they are already earning at a rate in excess of $1/share/year. As the bu$$, you'll find people on this thread tha believe they can bring $400 MM to the bottom line (I think that is rich, but half that much is surely possible), once the law of the land is finally obeyed by the memory makers. The memory makers are acting as if they lived in a lawless country like Red China or even Japan where piracy of intellectual property should be considered by the owner of the property as great "recognition" of their intellectual prowess and that recognition is sufficient and thus no monetary compensation for their IP is required.