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[dropdeadfred]

#3: THE UGLY HISTORY OF ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CORONAVIRUS VACCINES

There have been many attempts to make viral vaccines in the past that ended in utter failure, which is why we did not have a coronavirus vaccine in 2020.

In the 1960's, scientists attempted to make an RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) vaccine for infants.

In that study, they skipped animal trials because they weren't necessary back then.

In the end, the vaccinated infants got much sicker than the unvaccinated infants when exposed to the virus in nature, with 80% of the vaccinated infants requiring hospitalization, and two of them died.

After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960's.

You can read a summary of this history/science here.

Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links:

In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.


The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.

The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.

The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.

When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a "cytokine storm" (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.

Here's the lingering issue...

The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.


In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA "vaccines" been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I'm sure they figured that out.

Except they don't know if they have...


https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

[DesertDrifter]

The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products, are vaccine makers.

ROFL! Ever hear of the gun lobby and laws the NRA got passed to absolve the gun industry from wrongful death suits? I thought not.

[DragonBear]

#1: VACCINE MAKERS ARE IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY

As they should be. To insulate them from the anti-VAXers, and frivolous lawsuits.

Never brought a vaccine to market before covid (Moderna and Johnson & Johnson).

LOL. It seems your expert source for all things doesn't know that Janssen is a subsidiary of J&J. Where they have marketed numerous vaccines. That is where the J&J Covid vaccine came from.

As for Moderna, they now have a very successful Covid vaccine in the market. Extremely safe, and effective. And horror of horrors come next Spring, they will be marketing a mRNA vaccine 2 shot combo for Flu+Covid.

It's so terrible the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are so effective in protecting from Covid infection.

Oh BTW you should tell your expert that Thalidomide made a comeback as an anti-cancer drug. Courtesy of Celgene, and a subsequent derivative. Quite effective in its role as a anti-angiogenic drug. Seems your expert is as stupid as he sounds.

[BOREALIS]

ARE TOBACCO COMPANIES, AND MAKERS OF SIMILAR PRODUCTS, "IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY" ??

-- The only industry in the world that bears no liability for injuries or deaths resulting from their products--