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CombJelly

01/18/07 1:15 AM

#78518 RE: chipguy #78515

"Think thermals, think on-chip noise, and think circuit marginalities. "

Those things are certainly possible. And they can be nasty. But Penryl could be suffering from the same things. In fact, are probably more likely given that it is on a smaller process. If AMD had a track record of dog and pony shows with lots of eye candy like Intel does, this would be a very telling point. But the fact of the matter is that AMD hasn't done these things in the past. Which leaves things in a more ambiguous state. Sadly, running Task Manager is pretty typical. Their marketing people suck rocks.

AMD is famous for not being particularly transparent. Ever. I remember one poster swearing up and down that the original K8 had not taped out because there wasn't a big tent party. This was about a week before they had a public demo of the chip. Yes, it was a closed box demo running Windows and not much more. Obviously it had taped out something more than a week before...

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P2O I'm from MO

01/18/07 7:24 AM

#78527 RE: chipguy #78515

Task manager consumes next to no CPU activity.

Isn't the photo from the demo showing something other
than the task manager running? Note the cpu percentages
are all up over 50-60%.

Regards,
Mike