Tinroad..my point exactly..brand. Fujitsu Ten is one of Japan's largest suppliers of audio, electrical, and car navigation equipment within the automotive industry. The company manufactures automotive audio systems and navigation systems under its own brand, "Eclipse", and works with more than ten global original equipment manufacturers as well, among which are Toyota, General Motors, Honda, Isuzu and Daihatsu. Going directly to the source ( http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/english/ecology/e02.pdf ), I fail to see any "separate entity" for Eclipse. So much for false statements.