Liveingreenbay, Yet another unsupported assertion from you.
Apparently your "Of course they did. Didn't you read what Roberts said in conference? He said Bush v Gore didn't have riots." is as so many others of yours - untrue. Or, at least not verifiable.
Why ask for a link from you? One to see some evidence of what you claim. And so we wouldn't have to check virtually every dodgy, likely dishonest, post of yours.
Herman:A Texas elector got it dangerously wrong
Ken Herman Austin American-Statesman
Dec. 18. 2020
l let something get past me the other day. It happens. But it didn’t get past others, and I think it’s important enough to bring to your attention.
How important? Pretty important, pretty troubling and pretty ugly (if indeed a thing simultaneously can be pretty and ugly).
It happened last Monday in the Texas House chamber during what’s usually a perfunctory proceeding, albeit one I always love to attend. This was the meeting of the 38 Texans selected by their political party to serve as our state’s members of the Electoral College.
Texas presidential electors recite the Pledge of Allegiance to cast ballots for President Donald Trump at the Electoral College vote Monday afternoon in the House Chamber. As expected, all 38 Texas votes went to the president and vice president.
An honor indeed. And a task to be carried out honorably. It was our fellow Texans’ duty to place their ballots for president and vice president (two separate votes) into the box that was carried around the chamber, which was festively festooned with an oversized Christmas tree.
The votes, of course, were unanimous, reflecting the fact that President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence carried Texas in November. All went well and the process proceeded in an orderly fashion, worthy of a state and nation that this year conducted an orderly election under the most trying of circumstances. Good for us. Whether our candidates won or lost, we should be patting ourselves on the back.
Electors applaud after voting at Electoral College session on Monday at Texas Capitol. President Donald Trump got all 38 votes.
The short version is these electors voted 34-4 for a resolution damning the U.S. Supreme Court for throwing out Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s attempt .. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2020/12/14/texas-electoral-college-members-set-vote-donald-trump/6537445002/ .. to throw out the presidential votes in four states that aren’t Texas. (Yes, I know that no state other than Texas should be allowed to pick the president. But that’s not the current deal.)
Matt Patrick of Dallas, a Texas member of Electoral College, speaking at Monday, Dec. 14 session in Texas House chamber.
During the electors’ debate on whether their resolution should cite the Supreme Court for “moral cowardice,” indignant elector Matt Patrick of Dallas took to the chamber’s microphone to offer evidence of said moral cowardice. Indignation can be effective. But it loses some oomph when combined with uninformed.
There was only one problem with what Patrick said in defense of including the moral cowardice language. And that problem is everything.
Here, then, the meat of the comments made on the Texas House floor by someone duly chosen to represent Texas in the selection of the president and vice president of the United States:
"I wish I could give you a specific citation for this but I didn't make note of it because it was something that I read this morning and I did not know we were going to be presenting this amendment yet. But there's a report, available online. It was written by someone who's a current staffer for one of the Supreme Court justices. And I'll just describe the report to you that I read and you can make of it what you will."
“He said that the justices, as they always do, went into a closed room to discuss cases they're taking or to debate. There's no phones, no computers, no nothing, no one else is in the room except for the nine justices. It's typically very civil. They just debate what they're doing.
Texas presidential electors cast ballots for President Donald Trump on Monday afternoon in the Texas House chamber. As expected, all 38 Texas votes went to the president and vice president.
“But when the Texas case was brought up, he said he heard screaming through the walls as Justice Roberts and the other liberal justices were insisting that this case not be taken up. And the reason — the words that were heard through the wall when Justice Thomas and Justice Alito were citing Bush versus Gore — from John Roberts were ‘I don’t give a (brief pause to omit obscenity) about that case. I don't want to hear about it. At that time, we didn't have riots.’
INSERT: So there is your claim. At least Patrick had the courtesy to apologize for not having confirmation of what he claimed. You don't even give a fuck about that.
“So what he was saying was that he was afraid of what would happen if they did the right thing,” Patrick told fellow electors. “And I'm sorry, but that is moral cowardice.”
I agree with that last part. Patrick has something for which to be sorry. It’s just not what he thought it was. Patrick sullied a sacred moment of American democracy by taking to the House floor with nonsense offered as “something that I read and you can make of it what you will.”
[Which is what you have done in virtually every post here. Sullied the privilege you have to post. And this place.]
You can't believe everything you read. I once read that somewhere.
The electors voted 29-9 against Patrick’s impassioned entreaty to leave “moral cowardice” in the resolution, but they did approve the resolution without those words.
Not only is there no evidence that what Patrick reported actually happened, there’s pretty solid evidence it could not have. The fact-checking site snopes.com, and others, told us why not.
“This account can be dismissed for one simple reason,” snopes.com reported .. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/supreme-court-erupt-shouting-match/ . “The Supreme Court did not meet in a ‘closed and sealed room, as is standard’ to discuss this case. The Supreme Court has not met in person for months due to the COVID-19 pandemic.”
An Electoral College elector submits his ballot Monday in the Texas House chambers. As expected, all 38 Texas votes went to President Donald Trump and Vice President Michael Pence.
Snopes.com also reported that what Patrick, a State Republican Executive Committee member, said was a "a rehashed version of a piece of misinformation that was originally published on far-right conspiracy theorist Hal Turner’s website .. https://archive.vn/bZCNv ."
[Liveingreenbay, Is that where you picked it up? Is that why you didn't give us a link as you have been asked to do a number of times?]
And there’s this shoutout for the truth from Georgetown University law professor and Supreme Court follower Neal Katyal via Twitter: “1. The justices haven’t met in person for nine months since pandemic. 2. Screaming? The nine forgot how years ago when they joined the bench. Might as well say they were using wings & flying around the conference room.”
A few days after the Texas electors’ session, Washington Post columnist/Texas ex Karen Tumulty wondered this on Twitter: “Has anyone caught up with Texas elector Matt Patrick to explain to him that the bonkers story he is spreading about SCOTUS could not have happened, because they are not meeting in person?”
I didn’t know if anyone had caught up with Patrick about this. So I did.
“Yeah, I have no comment on the matter. Thank you,” Patrick told me. Then he hung up.
It would have been better if he’d had no comment on the matter when he'd said it under oath in his official capacity representing the State of Texas.
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