Replies to post #237928 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[Ian56]

You really are ignorant.

Saddam ran a secular government and had to keep the Islamists under control to remain in power.
The Islamists and Saddam were ideological enemies.

Saddam did not directly attack the US or have the means to do so.
Saddam did not have the capability to support even a local war and did not have the capability to launch a WMD attack.

Saddam did not support any terrorist group that carried out any attack on US troops or citizens. (Unlike Saudi.)

Saddam did support the Palestinians but this was under an Arab nationalism cause and not as a religious cause.
The amount of money spent by Saddam was minimal in context, but it was useful in order for him to further his goal of being seen as the leader of Arab nationalism.

Regards,
Ian

[easymoney101]

Some 30 non-governmental organisations in Niger said overnight they are going to sue the United States for nearly two billion dollars for "unfairly accusing" Niger of selling uranium to the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21057247-1702,00.html

[sortagreen]

It was Saadam and his followers. The violent, radical Muslims that want to kill all infidals by there own pronouncements.

That's just plain wrong. The opposite is completely substantiated. You don't see one picture of Saddam Huusein in religious attaire except an occasional towel (Kafir?) for ceremony.

It's you that's clueless, and incidentally the best recruiter violent Islam could hope for. Saddam Hussein, probably one of the more ruthless men in modern history, sat on Islamic fundamentalism in his neck of the woods for decades. We're the ones who installed a fundamentalist regime in Iraq. Of course we'd put Osama Bin Laden in charge if he'd endorse the new Hydrocarbons Law and turn on the taps...We'd swear up and down that it was all a misunderstanding too.

This war is about Iraq's resources.

If I'm so ignorant, name one book that you've read. Clark? Suskind? Vidal? Philips? Three out of four of those books are by Republicans. I know way more about the history and background of this situation than you do.

Who was Mossadegh and what did he do to be overthrown and by whom? Why is it imperative that Iraq's oil be denationalized at this juncture? Why is the deal such a complete screwing by any standards? Where did Dick Cheney say 50 million barrels of oil a day had to come from?

Where's Israel fit in. Why are so many of the big names in this administration the Neoconservatives from PNAC? How does this scenario play into their hands?

I don't fight many people either. I'm old. But I've stopped talking to people I've been friends with for 35 years over their backing of this madman. This really is our Adolf Hitler moment. You're with him. I'm not.