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[DragonBear]

Again, you don't need to be a test dummy with the mRNA "vaccine".

Then by all means avoid taking one of the mRNA vaccines. Instead catch Covid, and either die or have long term health problems because of the disease. Also both mRNA vaccines have already been proven in clinical trials to be 95% effective. As in "testing" has already been completed.

Tokyo Medical Association recommends administration of ivermectin to prevent injuries in cases of covid-19

First the Tokyo Medical Association isn't the same as the Japan Drug Regulatory Authority (PMDA). What the TMA recommends, in this case is not approved.

If you need a deworming then ivermectin is the drug for you! However, there are no clinical trial results which shows ivermectin "prevents injuries" due to Covid infection - whatever the hell "prevents injuries" is suppose to mean.

Do avoid getting vaccinated when your turn comes, so that someone else can be vaccinated a little bit sooner.

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[DesertDrifter]

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dropdeadfred, Again your anti-mask, anti-vaccine stance is recklessly irresponsible. Your leaning to
treatment to avoid serious illness rather than vaccine to stop the spread is still highly irresponsible.

This a bit dated, still goes toward yours and Trump's open everything early.

Japan Acted Like the Virus Had Gone. Now It’s Spread Everywhere.

By Lisa Du and Rie Morita

1 August 2020, 9:00 am AEST Updated on 3 August 2020, 11:47 am AEST

* After first wave, Japan re-opened quickly, urged travel

* Focus on economic recovery over infection control blamed

VIDEO 4:14 Covid-19 Surges in Emerging Markets as Global Cases Top 18 Million

After initial success, Japan is facing a reality check on the coronavirus.

The country garnered global attention after containing the first wave of Covid-19 with what it referred to as the “Japan Model” -- limited testing and no lockdown, nor any legal means to force businesses to close. The country’s finance minister even suggested a higher “cultural standard” helped contain the disease.

But now...

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“This is the result of the government prioritizing economic activity by getting people to move around again over infection control,” said Yoshihito Niki, a professor of infectious diseases at Showa University’s School of Medicine.

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Although Japan understood earlier than many Western countries that the virus was more likely to spread through droplets in the air, and warned residents to avoid crowded, unventilated conditions, it wasn’t enough to change individual behavior as the restrictions were lifted. While people have continued to wear masks throughout the pandemic, the current infections have largely occurred in situations where face coverings aren’t typically worn, like group dining and drinking events.

Unlike New Zealand, Japan never spoke of eliminating the pathogen. Experts tried to encourage a “new way of living” and spoke of an era in which people lived with the virus. But the messaging from central and regional governments was mixed, with local officials in Tokyo warning against travel even as the national government encouraged it, and both sides bickering over who was to blame.

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The national government continues to argue that the situation this time is different. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga reiterated Friday that another state of emergency isn’t required. The death rate in Japan remains low by almost any standards, and the medical system isn’t over-burdened -- a key factor public health officials use to judge success of virus containment. The country has fewer than 100 people in critical care due to Covid-19.

But treatment won’t bring the current spread to a halt.

“Hospitals can treat the infected,” said Koji Wada, a public health professor at the International University of Health and Welfare in Tokyo. “But only the government, through public health measures, can reduce the number of infected people.”

When Shigeru Omi, the head of the current panel of experts advising the government, told officials to delay the domestic tourism push, he was ignored. The “Go To Travel” campaign then turned into a public relations nightmare, as Japan’s rural residents grew angry over the potential of infections being brought to the countryside by city-dwellers. Eventually, Tokyo was excluded from the campaign in a last-minute about-face.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-31/japan-acted-like-the-virus-had-gone-now-it-s-spread-everywhere

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dropdeadfred, So you still see all hospitals and doctors working with covid and vaccines as murderers. See

The world is onto you murderous bastards.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=162366560

Poor. sad, mistrustful, sickly-conspiratorially-minded YOU. If further tests over the last months
have indicated to some that ivermectin is useful to use against covid that would be positive.

And the attitude toward vaccines in the Czech Republican is positive. At stark contrast to your personal sick-minded situation.

Also your article .. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.respekt.cz/rozhovor/nasim-pacientum-ivermektin-pomohl-obavy-chapu-ale-nemyslim-ze-jsme-neopatrni .. states there is a raging debate about it's use. Hardly the picture you paint. See below to add to your article.

Further, this was posted to you Jan 1. The article is dated Dec. 12 last year.

dropdeadfred, Again, shame on you. Imagine accusing your people of that which you accuse them of.

"They have known since August that Ivermectin works to stop the spread and ease the symptoms
of Covid. Your country used it but our country is full of greedy money hungry monsters."

And imagine you lying about what Australia has been doing.

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No evidence ivermectin is a miracle drug against Covid-19

CLAIM: The antiparasitic drug ivermectin "has a miraculous effectiveness that obliterates" the transmission of Covid-19 and will prevent people from getting sick.

THE FACTS: During a Senate hearing on Tuesday, a group of doctors touted alternative Covid-19 treatments, including ivermectin and the anti-malaria medication hydroxychloroquine. Medical experts have cautioned against using either of those drugs to treat Covid-19. Studies have shown that hydroxychloroquine has no benefit against the coronavirus and can have serious side effects. There is no evidence ivermectin has been proven a safe or effective treatment against Covid-19. Yet Dr Pierre Kory, a pulmonary and critical care specialist at Aurora St Luke's Medical Centre in Milwaukee, described ivermectin as a "wonder drug" with immensely powerful antiviral and anti-inflammatory agents at the hearing before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Clips of Kory's comments on ivermectin during the hearing were shared widely on social media, one clip receiving more than 1 million views on YouTube. Ivermectin is approved in the US in tablet form to treat parasitic worms as well as a topical solution to treat external parasites. The drug is also available for animals. The US Food and Drug Administration and the National Institutes of Health have said the drug is not approved for the prevention or treatment of Covid-19. According to the FDA, side effects for the drug include skin rash, nausea and vomiting. Dr Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert at Johns Hopkins University, said most of the research around ivermectin at the moment is made up of anecdotes and studies that are not the gold standard in terms of how to use ivermectin. "We need to get much more data before we can say this is a definitive treatment," he said. "We would like to see more data before I recommend it to my patients." Kory told the AP he stands by the comments he made at the hearing, saying he was not trying to promote the drug but the data around it. In June, Australian researchers published the findings of a study that found ivermectin inhibited the replication of Sars-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting, which is not the same as testing the drug on humans or animals. Following the study, the FDA released a letter out of concern warning consumers not to self-medicate with ivermectin products intended for animals. "It is a far cry from an in vitro lab replication to helping humans," said Dr Nasia Safdar, medical director of infection prevention at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Hospital. The discussion about the drug in the Senate hearing has some experts worried that Americans will start buying up ivermectin out of desperation. Despite a majority of evidence showing hydroxychloroquine is not an effective Covid-19 treatment, there was a rush on that drug earlier this year after President Donald Trump called it a cure. That depleted supply for those who needed the medication to treat lupus and other conditions. "If there is one thing we have learned in the pandemic is that we cannot jump the gun as far as determining or making assumptions about the effectiveness of potential agents," Safdar said.

— Beatrice Dupuy

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The Czech Republic has obviously done a poor job of controlling the virus. Hospitals are filling. They are desperate to try anything so some of the hospitals there are using ivermectin, in combination with other drugs, to help deter death in most serious cases.

Also they are having trouble getting the vaccines which YOU say are too dangerously risky for you. Czechs sure as hell disagree with you there.

Noted too: I see NOTHING anywhere about ivermectin being useful in reducing the spread of the virus. Vaccines are very useful there.

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Major Czech Republic Hospital Embraces Ivermectin and Many Other Hospital Physicians Calling as Pandemic Rages



By TrialSite Staff March 3, 2021

The COVID-19 pandemic has surged in the Czech Republic and the Prime Minister has ordered stringent lockdowns. While this European nation of 10.7 million doesn’t have nearly enough vaccines, they are apparently embracing ivermectin, the drug already in use in multiple Eastern European nations. As TrialSite has reported, Slovakia, Macedonia, and Bulgaria have formally accepted the generic, FDA approved drug due to its ability to inhibit the novel coronavirus. Now in a recent entry in Czech Republic media the head cardiologist of a prominent hospital reports that a major shipment of the drug has arrived at his facility. Apparently, they have purchased 20,000 doses and will serve as some form of distribution hub for ivermectin. Lots of physicians in other hospitals are calling and requesting the drug. In an interview, the head of the Internal Cardiology Clinic at the University Hospital of St. Peter’s and affiliated with University Hospital Brna, Michal Rezek, shares more.

COVID-19 in Czech Republic

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Chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association: Household Doctors Should Prescribe Ivermectin to Treat COVID-19
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Dr. Paul Marik: Ivermectin Works and Should be Accepted for Large Observational Studies
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Cases have been spiking as late due to a highly contagious variant filling up hospitals by the end of February. One of the hardest hit of European countries, lockdowns have followed. In fact, the Prime Minister Adrej Babis .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrej_Babi%C5%A1#:~:text=Andrej%20Babi%C5%A1%20(Czech%20pronunciation%3A%20%5B,Minister%20from%202014%20to%202017 .. declared last Friday a new series of measures, including protect life and stop transmission. Acknowledging that the government made past mistakes, the Prime Minister declared that Czech’s need to follow the rules moving forward.

The variant-driven surge, first monitored in the UK, has led to a new scary reality here that of the 7,176 COVID-19 patients in Czech hospitals, a record high 1,531 are in intensive care due to COVID-19. With 1.2 million total cases, the nation of 10.7 million people has lost nearly 21,000 lives to COVID-19.

In fact, measures are so rigid that authorities are stopping even local travel telling them to not leave their municipality. Nursery schools will close as will schools for children with disabilities. A biochemist here from Prague’s Charles University, Jan Konvalinka, was on record at a local radio station to be “…better late than never, we have to stop it somehow.”

Konvalinka and a large group of researchers and scientists have pleaded with the government to apply immediate restrictions to reduce the number of infections back down to 1,000 per week. Just last Thursday, the country reported 14,457 cases in one day.

Kristina Šopfová, Noviky.cv the chief cardiologist reports that the other physicians from other hospitals in the Czech Republic are communicating and requesting shipment of the drug to their centers. Dr. Rezek reports that an ivermectin shipment for up to 20,000 patients arrived at his hospital’s pharmacy and it will be distributed to other hospitals. St. Peter’s has 130 hospitalized for COVID-19. They also treat others on an ambulatory basis and keep 500 doses of the drug in stock. Apparently, the hospital procured a large amount of ivermectin to assess the interest across the country—and the interest is there.

What about Vaccines?

The Czech Republic has communicated with the EU nations for support to access vaccines products but thus far there are shortages in Europe’s procured vaccines. France did agree to send up to 100,000 doses of vaccine by mid Match and apparently Israel has donated 5,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine. Thus far, 632,820 vaccine shots have been administered in this nation.

Now in a bind, the government here is also turning to the Russian Sputnik V vaccine to mitigate growing risk from delayed EU-procured shots.

Lead Research/Investigator

Dr. Michal Rezek

https://trialsitenews.com/major-czech-republic-hospital-embraces-ivermectin-and-many-other-hospital-physicians-calling-as-pandemic-rages/