Replies to post #236905 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[StephanieVanbryce]

Start a movement .. I will join it . Let's mourn Americas traffic accident dead and wounded .. ! .. Go FOR IT ..!

[tinner]

<Why doesn't it bother you that 42,000+ Americans are killed a year in traffic accidents?>

They were accidents and GW sent fools to fight in a country half way around the world to die for him! Did they die by accident in a country where they now hate us? How's it feel to be in the 26% crowd still loving GW? You, ieddyi and Mr. Zero! LOL

[easymoney101]

to be a bush lover do you have to be bi?

[IxCimi]

That is a total STUPID basis for argumentation.

[easymoney101]

On Monday, January 8, 2007, Alan C. Milstein of the law firm, Sherman, Silverstein, Kohl, Rose & Podolsky, filed a brief in U.S. District Court, Eatern District of New York, on behalf of the Alliance for Human Research Protection ("AHRP"), Vera Sharav, and Dr. David Cohen, in support of their motion for an Order vacating CMO-3 in part (by determining that the Eli Lilly-Zyprexa documents which form the subject of a temporary injunction entered on December 29, 2006, are not confidential), or, in the alternative, dissolving the Injunction in part.

"The Injunction is not in the public interest, as any injunction must be. The important data in the Documents and the long history of cover-ups by "Big Pharma" make this clear."

"The issue before this Court is the public's right to know information critical to any informed decision to take a particular drug. Pharmaceutical companies have a record of concealing information about the adverse effects of their products and giving the public only that which will further the companies' sales, even at the expense of public health.1 Litigation against pharmaceutical companies is often the only means of curtailing the marketing and sale of drugs to those for whom the risks outweigh any benefits. Too often, however, drug companies and plaintiffs' lawyers agree to suppress from public view, by way of protective orders, the critical information revealed in the litigation process. Such protective orders, like the protective order that was agreed to by the plaintiffs and defendant in this case, do not serve the public good and, thus, do not comport to the purposes for which such orders were contemplated under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure."

"The Documents were generated by Lilly itself and, if their disclosure is damaging, it is because the Documents reveal the Company's admissions about the risks of Zyprexa. On the other hand, the harm to the public in not having material information about the dangers of a particular drug is manifest."

"The fact of the Documents, and a summary of their contents, was made known to the public through the Times' coverage. The public continues to have access to archives of the Times' coverage, roughly 10,000 web pages about the Times' coverage, the YouTube video, the Wikipedia entry, and countless other web and print resources about Lilly's malfeasance."

The documents, as reported by the New York Times, show evidence, at best, that Eli Lilly concealed material information from or, at worst, intentionally misled patients and prescribing physicians. Such documents are not confidential by any standard.

See full legal brief at: http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2007/01/legal-brief-on-behalf-of-ahrp-lilly.html

Links to NYT reports:
http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F50710FC38550C748DDDAB0994DE404482

also at: http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2006/12/eli-lilly-documents-show-risks-of.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9E05E2DA1331F93BA25751C1A9609C8B63

also at: http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2006/12/eli-lilly-documents-show-lilly.html

http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F30A16F938550C7A8DDDAB0994DE404482

also at: http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2006/12/eli-lilly-lies-about-zyprexa-nyt-calls.html

http://ahrp.blogspot.com/2006/12/lillys-marketing-zyprexa-letters-to.html





ALLIANCE FOR HUMAN RESEARCH PROTECTION (AHRP)
Promoting Openness, Full Disclosure, and Accountability
www.ahrp.org
Contact: Vera Hassner Sharav
212-595-8974
[e-mail]

[PegnVA]

As for your constant rant that anyone who criticizes The Decider must "hate" him, frankly it's very boring. And your Rush/Sean-born arguement comparing traffic accidents, etc. to a president who LIES to the nation thus causing thousands of deaths - not just to brave Americans - doesn't hold water.
The Decider sent our sons/daughters into a war in Iraq based on a LIE, and the nation realizes it. The Decider LIED to this nation; now +3,000 brave US military are dead, with +28,000 brave US military injured - many of them permanently.

Call back when you get over your "hate" rant.

[koolmc]

well actually you can blame it on them by not making safer cars lol

[nlightn]

rollingrock stated, "Why doesn't it bother you that 42,000+ Americans are killed a year in traffic accidents?"

that has got to be the absolutely dumbest, stupidest,irrelevant and most immature example i've read on this thread.

congratulations,....

you must really have a difficult time getting around in life based on that statement.

don't you get it,...these men and women (troops) have DIED BECAUSE YOUR PRESIDENT LIED ABOUT THE REASON TO GO TO WAR.

get that through your head.

NEWS FLASH,...in order for someone to grow up they have to accept a reality in life called,...sometimes you make a mistake, admit it and grow from the realization that you don't know everything.

once you make that admission you begin move into the category of a mature adult.

it's waiting for you,...your move though.