Replies to post #356172 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[Dale C]

Fair to say most if not all politicians tell lies but only one has claimed the Continental Army took over British airports. Many examples like this exist. There is a fine line between brain farts and crazy as fuck and Trump crossed that line when he was in his teens.

[fuagf]

ForReal, My point clearly was, on any general honesty scale Biden would clearly rank higher than Trump. On all the evidence that is unarguable.

"Plenty reason to put Trump first in the honesty stakes, eh.
The point being, voting for Biden would only amount to voting for one liar versus another.
No wonder he keeps scurrying to his basement"

It's like eating one Macca's burgher a month vs 100. And being careful and caring versus reckless and sociopathic.

On that specific boilermaker thing,

The exchange went as follows:

Stephanopoulos: You said you don’t want to ban fracking. As you know, it’s an important issue here in Pennsylvania. Not everyone buys your denial. A member of the Boilermakers Local 154 Shawn Steffee was quoted in the New York Times today saying ‘You can’t have it both ways,’ he says ‘You can’t meet your goals to end fossil fuels without ending fracking.’ What do you say to people like Shawn who doubt your denial because they think you want to keep that promise?

Biden: I’d tell them the Boilermakers overwhelmingly endorse me, okay. So the Boilermakers unions endorse me because I sat down with them, went into great detail with their leadership on exactly what I would do, number one.
https://nonperele.com/fact-check-pennsylvania-boilermakers-union-supports-trump-not-joe-biden/

NOTED: IN THAT Biden did not say any particular boilermaker lodge supported him. He said boilermakers supported him.

Without any further dialogue, and without clear evidence of how many boilermakers had endorsed Biden, how can so many Trump supporting sites call that a lie of Bidens? They have no grounds just based on that one exchange.

There are over 200 of that boilermaker union's lodges in America and i'm sure not all of the endorse Trump.

The Boilermakers have been headquartered in Kansas City, Kansas, since 1893, and there are now more than 200 Boilermaker local lodges across North America.
https://aflcio.org/2019/7/15/get-know-afl-cios-affiliates-boilermakers

Bidens saying unions may have meant lodges for a start. Or, he just may be talking about individual boilermakers.

Then i don't know if there are other boilermaker unions. A quick search didn't maker that clear for me.

On the Hunter Biden stuff it's interesting that FOX knocked it back before it ended up in the NYPost ..

EXCLUSIVE: Fox News Passed on Hunter Biden Laptop Story Over Credibility Concerns
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158991207

As i've said before on that so-called new on Hunter i'm happy to wait to see if anything comes from it in the end. The Durham Report obviously came up cold.

[DesertDrifter]

That is raising false equivalency to an art form.

[Slojab]

The point being, voting for Biden would only amount to voting for one liar versus another

No, voting for Biden would be voting for someone who lied once, 40 years ago. I'm sure both you and I were different people 40 years ago. But we're discussing two people today, running for president. One lied 40 years ago, while the other has been lying continuously for the past 40 years.

I hope you took the time to read the 66 lies he told in just the past three days. He's lied about someone or something in every rally he's ever held.