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According to prosecutors, twins Michael and William Null are a part of a militia group who conspired to overthrow the government, kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and put her on trial for “treason.”

But according to a Michigan sheriff, who once shared the stage with one of the twins at an anti-Whitmer rally, they might have only wanted to perform a citizen’s arrest on the Democratic governor, calling the bombshell allegations “just a charge.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sheriff-pal-of-militia-twins-suggests-whitmer-kidnap-plot-couldve-been-a-legal-citizens-arrest-attempt?ref=home

[Dale C]

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Group charged in Michigan governor kidnap plot discussed targeting Virginia governor, FBI agent says

"Men Who Allegedly Plotted to Kidnap Michigan’s Governor Celebrated Violent Far-Right Extremism
"The Far-Right Revolution Was Waiting for an Opportunity. Now, It’s Here.
"'No Blame?' ABC News finds 54 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.
"Leaked Documents Show Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at Protests, Not “Antifa”""""

By Sonia Moghe, Sara Sidner and Eric Levenson, CNN

Updated 2056 GMT (0456 HKT) October 13, 2020

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(CNN) -- The group charged with plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer also discussed kidnapping Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, an FBI agent testified in court on Tuesday.

FBI agent Richard Trask testified during a preliminary hearing that the group discussed taking out sitting governors due to their "coronavirus-related lockdown orders."

"They discussed possible targets, taking a sitting governor, specifically governors of Michigan and Virginia, over shut down orders," Trask said.

"The understanding at the time was to potentially kidnap a sitting governor and remove them from office," he added.

The FBI obtained this information during a June 6 meeting in Dublin, Ohio. A person who attended the meeting came forward to authorities "based on concerns (over) some of the directions that the group was headed and potential violence."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/13/us/kidnap-plot-governor-michigan-virginia/index.html

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O'Keefe again - Claim of Michigan Postal Fraud Is Moot

"Men Who Allegedly Plotted to Kidnap Michigan’s Governor Celebrated Violent Far-Right Extremism
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The FBI charged six individuals with conspiracy to kidnap Gov. Whitmer, and the state of Michigan separately charged seven others with “providing support for terrorist acts,” among other charges. Brandon Caserta, one of the six described in an FBI affidavit .. http://www.seditionists.com/michigankidnap1.pdf , posted several memes endorsing the deadly shootings by Rittenhouse. One shows Rittenhouse laughing underneath the text: “when you’ve smoked 3 commies before you can legally smoke cigarettes.”
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In an Instagram post from two years ago, Caserta praised Jordan Peterson, a reactionary Canadian psychology professor who in recent years has become an icon among young political right-wingers. Peterson’s ideology is vague and mostly focuses on attacking politically correct language and the use of someone’s preferred gender pronouns, but an analysis by the Data & Society Research Institute found that, via YouTube’s algorithms, Peterson was a gateway to violent far-right extremism .. https://datasociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DS_Alternative_Influence.pdf . (The video-streaming platform has adjusted its algorithms since that research was conducted.)
P - Caserta’s activity on YouTube further suggests his worldview: He subscribed to Project Veritas, an outlet known for pushing right-wing disinformation, and the channel run by Ben Shapiro, also considered by some experts to be a gateway to online radicalization .. https://datasociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DS_Alternative_Influence.pdf , among others ..

sample of his youtube subs, of course Ben Shapiro pic.twitter.com/Wsg2IvrGKs

— joshrussell.bsky.social (@josh_emerson) October 8, 2020

. Caserta’s Facebook likes included one for the page “Michigan Revolution,” whose profile photo shows a man dressed in Revolutionary War–era clothing and holding an assault rifle paired with the text “NEW AMERICAN REVOLUTION.”"

Related: The White House is now using James O’Keefe videos to attack the press
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O'Keefe did it in 2016 too. See below article.

By Saranac Hale Spencer

Posted on November 6, 2020

Quick Take

A video from a right-wing activist suggests that U.S. Postal Service employees backdated ballots in Michigan. The claim is unproven, but, even if true, no ballots in the state are accepted after Nov. 3, regardless of the postmark.

Full Story

Project Veritas .. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/politics/project-veritas-ilhan-omar.html , a right-wing activist organization, added to the onslaught of misinformation .. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/viral-voting-misinformation/ .. aimed at discrediting the election results this week.

In a video posted to the group’s YouTube channel, its founder, James O’Keefe, claimed to present a Postal Service “whistleblower” with information suggesting election fraud in Michigan.

With his voice modified to disguise his identity, the so-called whistleblower says in the video: “We were issued a directive this morning to collect any ballots we find… so that they could hand stamp them with the previous day’s date. Today is Nov. 4, for clarification.”

Election Day was Nov. 3, so the implication is that the U.S. Postal Service was participating in a scheme to allow illegitimate votes to be counted.

We don’t know if there was any such “directive.” The U.S. Postal Service inspector general’s office is investigating the complaint, spokesman Agapi Doulaveris told FactCheck.org by email, and, she said, “no additional information [is] available at this time.”

But, even so, it would have no bearing on the election. Michigan law .. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-act-116-of-1954.pdf .. specifies that mail-in ballots “must reach the clerk or an authorized assistant of the clerk before the close of the polls on election day. An absent voter ballot received by the clerk or assistant of the clerk after the close of the polls on election day will not be counted.”

The Michigan Secretary of State’s office has also explained on its website .. https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_100423_102534_102535---,00.html , “Michigan’s election clerks count valid ballots that they received at their offices or in their official ballot drop boxes by 8 p.m. on Election Day. Ballots received thereafter, regardless of the postmark, are not counted.”

And, just to be very clear, Bonnie Scheele, the county clerk for the area that includes the post office referenced in the video, told PolitiFact .. https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/nov/05/allegations-usps-election-fraud-michigan-dont-hold/ , “Even if the ballots were postmarked as Nov. 3, they cannot be counted because the ballots had to be in the hands of the township or city clerks by 8 p.m. Nov. 3.”

Also worth noting is that President Donald Trump received more votes .. http://www.co.grand-traverse.mi.us/DocumentCenter/View/15392/November-3-2020-ELECTION-RESULTS .. in that county, although his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden, did get more mail-in votes.

Despite the fact that the claim is moot, Donald Trump Jr., one of the president’s children, retweeted ..

Where is the DOJ??? https://t.co/o4YQFIirQ4

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) November 5, 2020

.. the video to his 6 million followers with this message referring to the Department of Justice: “Where is the DOJ???”

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[INSERT: By spreading misinformation as O'Keefe makes a practice of he is following the practices of
(adhering to) America's enemies. He is helping America's enemies. It's gotta be at least treasonous spirit.

"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."
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And some conservative outlets promoted it, too. Fox News host Sean Hannity called the Project Veritas video a “bombshell” on the Nov. 5 episode of his show .. https://video.foxnews.com/v/6207574060001 , and a website called Chicks On The Right used the same term .. https://archive.is/wip/XGMiV .. to describe it. The Russia-based, government-funded network RT, formerly Russia Today, promoted the claim, too.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook .. http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/factcheck-org-to-work-with-facebook-on-exposing-viral-fake-news/ .. to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.

This fact check is available at IFCN’s 2020 US Elections FactChat #Chatbot on WhatsApp. Click here .. https://www.poynter.org/ifcn/factchat/ .. for more.

Sources

FactCheck.org. “Viral Voting Misinformation.” Updated 6 Nov 2020.

Doulaveris, Agapi. Spokesman, U.S. Postal Service Office of Inspector General. Email to FactCheck.org. 6 Nov 2020.

Michigan Election Law. Act 116 of 1954. Legislature.mi.gov. Accessed 6 Nov 2020.

Michigan Secretary of State. Election security in Michigan. Accessed 6 Nov 2020.

McCarthy, Bill. “Allegations of USPS election fraud in Michigan don’t hold up.” PolitiFact. 5 Nov 2020.

Trump, Donald Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr). “Where is the DOJ???” Twitter. 4 Nov 2020.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/claim-of-michigan-postal-fraud-is-moot/

See also:

Project Veritas' Election 2016 'Rigging' Videos
James O'Keefe's Project Veritas released four 2016 election-related videos supposedly
depicting rampant election fraud and misconduct on the part of Democrats.
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Erik Prince Recruits Ex-Spies to Help Infiltrate Liberal Groups
P - Mr. Prince, a contractor close to the Trump administration, contacted veteran spies for operations by Project Veritas, the conservative group known for conducting stings on news organizations and other groups.
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Flashback - CPAC 2019 reveals a base in thrall to Trump
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The agenda also includes events on America’s debt, criminal justice reform, Venezuela, and “stopping the progressive drift of evangelical border,” but visitors can also attend a panel on the censoring of conservative media content featuring Project Veritas’s James O’Keefe, who attempted to trick the Washington Post ..

.. into reporting on a false sexual assault allegation involving former Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore.
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