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Dale C, Spot on. All of it. Will just emphasis this of it ..

"Thucydides "Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." Courage to do the right thing even when it is unpopular. If Gore or Nader had been in charge on 9/11 we wouldn't have been involved in Iraq and the subsequent birth of ISIS or the forever war."

Excellent! Certainly the 9/11 bit is a laser. The ISIS bit is close enough ..

ISIL originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, which pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda and participated in
the Iraqi insurgency following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces at the behest of the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant