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[PegnVA]

Good article...At one time I saw Vindman as being naive, but Jeffrey Goldberg put it best - Vindman is an idealist...
He did not fully understand at the time, he says, that the Trump administration had two separate foreign policies. The first was run out of the National Security Council, and by the many agencies and departments that are collectively charged with protecting America from its adversaries.
The second was being manufactured by the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, with a goal of ensuring Trump’s reelection. What Vindman learned that day, he says, wasn’t just the extent to which Giuliani was attempting to weaponize the Ukrainian justice system against Biden, but that Trump himself was involved.

[fuagf]

Top article. Trump, via his selfish authoritarian approach to his role, has ruined the careers of good, hard-working, responsible, and competent career Americans. Vindman and Yovanovitch the stand-out two from that "perfect" telephone call of Trump's to Zelensky. I too, as Peg, felt too this as key

"Alexander Vindman: Trump Is Putin’s ‘Useful Idiot’"

"He did not fully understand at the time, he says, that the Trump administration had two separate foreign policies. The first was run out of the National Security Council, and by the many agencies and departments that are collectively charged with protecting America from its adversaries.

The second was being manufactured by the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, with a goal of ensuring Trump’s reelection. What Vindman learned that day, he says, wasn’t just the extent to which Giuliani was attempting to weaponize the Ukrainian justice system against Biden, but that Trump himself was involved."

Your link - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/alexander-vindman-trump-putin-useful-idiot/616341/

How could anyone except Trump, Giuliani, and the unpatriotic, nefarious inner circle know? They couldn't have.

Add this little bit i've never heard of before

"But do you think Russia is blackmailing Trump? “They may or may not have dirt on him, but they don’t have to use it,” he says. “They have more effective and less risky ways to employ him. He has aspirations to be the kind of leader that Putin is, and so he admires him. He likes authoritarian strongmen who act with impunity, without checks and balances. So he’ll try to please Putin.”

Vindman continues, “In the Army we call this ‘free chicken,’ something you don’t have to work for—it just comes to you. This is what the Russians have in Trump: free chicken.”"

So as well as Trump being the biggest turkey to sit in the WH he is also "free chicken.” LOLOL

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From one of the extra article links in there - We've seen similar before, and said the same ourselves, still Pelosi also has it spot on ..

The Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, herself a longtime Trump target, said, “He made a mistake. I think part of it is his own insecurity as an impostor … he knows full well he’s in that office way over his head. And so, he has to diminish everyone else.” Trump has a history of diminishing women, of taking them down when he feels challenged by them.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/why-trump-attacked-marie-yovanovitch/602134/