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PUMP THE JUNK OUT OF YOUR LIFE 1 of 6: Dr. Stella GWP - God's Warrior Princess.

11,787 views •Dec 8, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgvYgBlfBo4&list=PL34acvCS65arg7nu0lAoiVjnAQ4IDRCla&index=9&t=0s

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Why is Trump supporter Stella Immanuel talking about demon sex and spiritual warfare? A professor explains

Consider this an attempt at a giant step toward understanding. ;-)


Dr. Stella Immanuel speaks during a July 27, 2020, news conference with members of a group called America’s Frontline Doctors in Washington,
D.C. Video screengrab

July 29, 2020
Bob Smietana

(RNS) — When André Gagné heard Stella Immanuel, a Trump-supporting doctor, talk about demon sex and hydroxychloroquine, he knew what she was talking about.

At least the demon part.

“That’s essentially Genesis Chapter 6,” said Gagné, professor of theological studies at Concordia University in Montreal. Or at least one interpretation of the passage.

In that chapter of the Bible, spiritual creatures known as the “sons of God” look down on human women, find them to be good-looking and decide to sleep with them, leading to the birth of a group known as the Nephilim. All of this behavior eventually culminates in the Flood.

Immanuel, a doctor and the head of Fire Power Ministries .. https://www.facebook.com/FirePowerMinistriesWithDrStellaImmanuel/ , made headlines this week — both for her medical claims and her beliefs about spirituality and conspiracies involving aliens— when she appeared in a video promoting hydroxychloroquine to fight COVID-19.

RELATED: Stella Immanuel's theories about demons, illness and sex have a long history
https://religionnews.com/2020/07/29/stella-immanuels-theories-about-demons-illness-and-sex-have-a-long-history/

Gagné said he can’t comment about conspiracies. But the professor, who studies Pentecostal and charismatic Christians, said Immanuel’s spiritual beliefs sounded familiar.

Immanuel appears to be connected with African Pentecostal and charismatic church movements, where the spiritual world and the physical are closely connected.

What happens in the spiritual world affects the physical world in that belief system.

“It could be sickness, it could be prosperity,” he said about how the spiritual world might influence everyday life events. “It could be things around infertility. It could be anything. That world has an impact.”

And Immanuel likely sees no conflict between her training as a medical doctor, where she uses the tools of science to treat patients, and her work as a deliverance minister.


Dr. Stella Immanuel speaks in a Fire Power Ministries video. Video screengrab

People who share her beliefs would understand what she’s talking about, said Gagné. When people outside the faith, with no context, hear or see what she said, things sound weird.

“We don’t understand this world. We don’t have the same epistemology,” he said.

Gagné noted the similarity to a Paula White sermon, when the Trump adviser preached about satanic pregnancies .. https://religionnews.com/2020/01/26/paula-whites-sermon-comment-about-satanic-pregnancies-goes-viral/ .. and caused a social media controversy. Those she was preaching to knew she was not talking about literal pregnancies, while outsiders were confused and horrified.

Gagné also pointed to .. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/10/30/us/the-newest-christian-fiction-injects-a-thrill-into-theology.html .. “This Present Darkness,” the 1980s bestselling novel by Christian author Frank Peretti – in which angels and demons play an active role in the world — as an example of a similar worldview.

“Not all Pentecostals believe these things,” Gagné acknowledged. That part of the Protestant Christian world is large and diverse, he said, and not all use the same theological language.

Gagné also said people often compartmentalize their work life and their religious life. So he would not be surprised if Immanuel’s kept her spiritual beliefs separate from her medical practice.

He did say her public statements haven’t helped people understand her beliefs.

“She didn’t help her case when she started taking authority in Jesus’ name over Facebook,” he said.

For her part, Immanuel seemed to enjoy the headlines about her beliefs, claiming news media are essentially doing “free commercials on our deliverance ministries.”

“Fire Power is main stream,” she wrote on ..

Woah CNN, MSNBC etc are doing free commercials on our deliverance ministry. Fire Power is main stream. Thank you CNN and let me know when y’all need some of them demons cast out of you. I will gladly oblige. You will feel a lot better. Keep up the good work. #cnn #MSNBC

— Dr. Stella Immanuel MD (@stella_immanuel) July 29, 2020

.. Twitter. “Thank you CNN and let me know when y’all need some of them demons cast out of you. I will gladly oblige. You will feel a lot better. Keep up the good work.”

https://religionnews.com/2020/07/29/why-is-trump-supporter-stella-immanuel-talking-about-demon-sex-and-spiritual-warfare-a-professor-explains/

I'm not certain how Immanuel's alleged contention (#3) that alien DNA is being used in medical treatments fits in with her medical practice.

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Trevor Noah to Trump: don't listen to 'internet randos like Dr Demon Sperm'

Late-night hosts decry Trump’s latest coronavirus conspiracy theory and his rollbacks of environmental regulations


Trevor Noah: America ‘has two choices right now: limit the spread of corona by following the science, or listen to the advice of internet randos like Dr Demon Sperm’. Photograph: YouTube

Adrian Horton
Published on Thu 30 Jul 2020 02.14 AEST

Trevor Noah

America’s rates of coronavirus cases continue to soar above those of other developed nations such as Canada, Trevor Noah reported on Tuesday’s Daily Show, a dismal reality partly attributable to reports over the weekend of un-distanced “Covid parties”, church services without masks and a packed Chainsmokers concert in the Hamptons. “Obviously, ordinary Americans should be taking this pandemic more seriously,” said Noah. “But in their defense, it’s hard to do that when this is the guy who’s setting the tone from the top.”

The Daily Show
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Who’s Trump turning to now that he’s told Fauci to f**k off? A
doctor who thinks demons watch you when you masturbate.

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Noah referred to Donald Trump’s retweeting earlier this week of a coronavirus conspiracy video inaccurately claiming hydroxychloroquine – that old friend – as a cure for the virus. Twitter subsequently flagged and removed the video, which featured Dr Stella Immanuel, a physician in Texas with, as reported by the Daily Beast .. https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine , a long history of propagating bizarre, untruthful and anti-LGBTQ medical claims, such as that gynecological conditions like endometriosis are caused by people having sex in their dreams with witches or demons. “Yes, despite having the world’s top doctors at his disposal,” said Noah, “Trump has decided instead to trust a doctor who believes that people get sick because they masturbate and that vaccines are made from alien DNA.

“And by the way, whatever you do, please don’t start running around saying that African doctors are crazy,” he added. (Immanuel was born in Cameroon and received her medical degree in Nigeria.) “This doctor, who’s from Africa, happens to be crazy. You can’t use her to judge all African doctors, the same way you wouldn’t want the world to judge America’s presidents based on one guy, would you?”

Trevor Noah to Senator Tom Cotton: 'You know what’s racially divisive? Slavery'
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/jul/28/trevor-noah-tom-cotton-slavery-late-night-tv

Basically, America “has two choices right now”, Noah concluded. We can “limit the spread of corona
by following the science” or “listen to the advice of internet randos like Dr Demon Sperm”.

Jimmy Fallon

Jimmy Fallon also dug into the president’s misinformation campaign on Tuesday night. “In 14 tweets, Trump undermined Dr Fauci, dismissed face masks and boasted about hydroxychloroquine working again,” the Tonight Show host said of Trump’s Monday night Twitter spree. “What is he doing? Even flat-earthers think this guy is out of his mind.

“It’s like Crazy Trump was away for a week, and then someone said ‘hydroxychloroquine’ three times,” he added.

“It feels like we’re back to Scary Misinformation Trump. I prefer ‘Person, Man, Woman, Camera, TV’ Trump instead,” he said in reference to Trump boasting of a cognitive function test last week on Fox News. “I also liked Point to an Elephant Trump. He was fun.”

Despite the Food and Drug Administration’s disavowal of hydroxychloroquine as a coronavirus cure, “Trump won’t give up,” Fallon concluded. “He’s like your friend who never stops trying to make you watch the show they’re watching.”

Seth Meyers

On Late Night, Seth Meyers checked in with the Trump administration’s efforts to roll back environmental regulations amid the chaos of the coronavirus pandemic. Given Trump’s bungling of the coronavirus crisis, “you could be forgiven for thinking he hasn’t been doing anything at all”, said Meyers. “However, he has been very successful at rolling back environmental regulations and weakening major conservation laws, all while Americans have been distracted by a global pandemic, because instead of pulling back on pollution when lungs are having their worst year since Mad Men went off the air, Trump has actually been doubling down on his dangerous agenda.”

During the coronavirus lockdown in the US, the Trump administration has eased fuel-efficiency standards for new cars, frozen rules for soot air pollution, and leased public property to oil and gas companies. “It’s when Trump seems to be doing nothing that he’s at his most dangerous,” said Meyers. “It’s like when your kids are upstairs and they’re super quiet for way too long – you know you’re about to wallpaper over some sharpie.”

The administration has continued to push anti-science policies despite the distraction of coronavirus, Meyers explained, which disproportionately affects people of color, and derive from Trump’s longstanding denial of climate change. “Trump’s view that global warming is a hoax is one of the only stances he’s been consistent on,” Meyers said. “That, and there’s no such thing as a tie that’s too long.”

One of the administration’s “biggest and most audacious deregulatory actions” has been to gut the National Environmental Policy Act, a 50-year-old piece of legislation which requires federal agencies consider the environmental impact of infrastructure projects before they are approved, and allows residents to weigh in. Which demands our attention, Meyers concluded, especially in an election year: “The Trump presidency will be over some day, but the sad reality is that the environmental effects will be permanent, and that becomes everyone’s problem.”

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/jul/29/trevor-noah-trump-hydroxychloroquine-dr-demon-sperm