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vinmantoo

04/05/20 2:34 PM

#230516 RE: caravon #230515

I spoke to a person who owns a ICU hospital in NY. He said that only 14% of pts on ventilation survive and the most of survivals are permanently damaged. Consequently, his advice: treatment must be started ASAP except for pts with none-to-low risk factors.



The studies are small but so far the survival rate is higher that 14% but still low.

The largest study so far to look at mortality among coronavirus patients on ventilators was done by the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre in London. It found that among 98 ventilated patients in the U.K., just 33 were discharged alive.

The numbers from a study of Wuhan, China, are even grimmer. Only 3 of 22 ventilated patients survived.

And a study of 18 ventilated patients in Washington state found that nine were still alive when the study ended, but only six had recovered enough to breathe on their own.





https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/02/826105278/ventilators-are-no-panacea-for-critically-ill-covid-19-patients
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biocqr

04/05/20 2:36 PM

#230517 RE: caravon #230515

He said that only 14% of pts on ventilation survive and the most of survivals are permanently damaged.


That's consistent with other reports...

Ventilators Are No Panacea For Critically Ill COVID-19 Patients

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/02/826105278/ventilators-are-no-panacea-for-critically-ill-covid-19-patients

The largest study so far to look at mortality among coronavirus patients on ventilators was done by the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre in London. It found that among 98 ventilated patients in the U.K., just 33 were discharged alive.

The numbers from a study of Wuhan, China, are even grimmer. Only 3 of 22 ventilated patients survived.

And a study of 18 ventilated patients in Washington state found that nine were still alive when the study ended, but only six had recovered enough to breathe on their own.

All the early research suggests that once coronavirus patients are placed on a ventilator, they will probably need to stay on it for weeks. And the longer patients remain on a breathing machine, the more likely they are to die.

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zipjet

04/07/20 7:49 AM

#230616 RE: caravon #230515

Survival on vent is important.

I'd suggest it may be an indicator of how well the ICU is operating on a new disease COVID19.

This is a link to a New Orleans review of how to operate the ICU.



They achieved 40% extubation.