"as you can see from others it matters not that this is ascam, it matters only that they make money." HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the name of the game lad. For me to win .....you have to lose. If you find that offensive, despicable, obscene or just downright not being a nice guy....you have no business playing with the OTC. This is nothing more than a P&D crap table with loaded dice. Put you lunch money in da bank. duhhhhhh!