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01/22/20 3:47 AM

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DAY 1 - Trump impeachment: senators kill Democratic efforts to subpoena more evidence – live

* First day of trial sees hours of debate over procedure
* House manager Adam Schiff calls process ‘ass-backwards’
* Senate votes down several amendments brought by Democrats

LIVE Updated 5h ago

Trump goes on trial in US Senate – watch live

Maanvi Singh in San Francisco (now), and Joan E Greve in Washington (earlier)

Tue 21 Jan 2020 22.34 EST

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/jan/21/trump-impeachment-senate-democrats-us-politics-live
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01/27/20 8:14 PM

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Impeachment Expert Witness for GOP Says Alan Dershowitz Is
Fundamentally Mistaken' in Key Component of Defense


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"Senator Schumer: Everything In These Impeachment Trial Rules Is Rigged | Morning Joe | MSNBC
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Dershowitz on impeachment reversal: I am much more correct right now
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By Asher Stockler On 1/25/20 at 9:41 AM EST

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The sole expert witness for House Republicans during the Judiciary Committee's impeachment inquiry called Alan Dershowitz's belief that impeachment requires an underlying crime or criminal-like behavior "erroneous."

In an op-ed for The Hill, Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law scholar at George Washington University, wrote that .. https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/479302-the-senate-should-reject-dershowitz-argument-on-johnson-impeachment .. advancing such an argument could have a "damaging impact" on the impeachment process.

"For my testimony before Congress during the impeachment hearings of both President Clinton and Trump, I took the opposing view that a president can be impeached for a noncriminal act," he said.

Dershowitz, who is part of the president's defense team in the Senate, has indicated multiple times that he believes impeachment requires the commission of a crime or an act analogous to a crime. He told Newsweek that he plans to respond to Turley's article on Monday.

President Donald Trump is not charged in either of the articles of impeachment with violating a criminal statute specifically, although he is accused of otherwise unlawful conduct.

As Turley noted, the standard of "high crimes and misdemeanors" is borrowed directly from the British Parliament, which developed a process of impeachment over centuries through which that phrase was born. In England, it was frequently used to remove officials for non-criminal conduct.

Furthermore, no federal bribery statute existed in the Founding era, so the invocation of a specific criminal law would not have been possible even by the people who drafted the impeachment clause.

Turley also sparred with Dershowitz over his reliance on President Andrew Johnson's 1868 impeachment to bolster his argument. While Turley derided the impeachers who sought to oust Johnson, contrary to the understanding .. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mike-pence-andrew-johnson-1482849 .. of impeachment experts, he also disputed Dershowitz's assertion that the 1868 trial set a standard for purely criminal behavior.

Trump's impeachment is the first for a president to be based on a non-criminal statute, and Turley characterized the process as "the shortest period of investigation in history for a presidential impeachment." However, he argued that Dershowitz's referral to Benjamin Curtis, a Supreme Court justice in 1868, is misguided.

Curtis did argue that the Constitution "designated impeachable offenses as offenses." Turley wrote that this was not meant to exclude non-criminal conduct, but to urge the Senate to consider itself a judicial forum and not a political body during impeachment. Context supports this interpretation, as Curtis had reproached the House for turning "itself into a school of manners" after passing an article of impeachment based on Johnson making loud and uncouth statements.

"Not only do I believe the interpretation of the Johnson trial is fundamentally mistaken, but it is a mistake to ask senators to base their votes on such a widely rejected theory," Turley wrote. "Impeachments can be based on noncriminal acts, but that does not mean the noncriminal acts in this case are impeachable."

https://www.newsweek.com/alan-dershowitz-impeachment-jonathan-turley-1484018
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01/28/20 5:49 PM

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'Toxic Mess': Clash At Impeachment Trial Over What Trump Knew | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

"Senator Schumer: Everything In These Impeachment Trial Rules Is Rigged | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Lev Parnas: 'President Trump Knew Exactly What Was Going On.' | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
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Jan 24, 2020


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In this “The Beat Breakdown: Trump on Trial”, MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports the key moments from the Democrats case against Trump, including showing key evidence that aligns with Rep. Adam Schiff’s dramatic closing. Melber also shows how Democrats are arguing Trump obstructed Congress, and the limits of a new Trump defense from Sen. Graham that carries echoes of the sitcom “Seinfeld.” (MSNBC Digital Exclusive.) Aired on 1/24/2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v_iUkSjUX4

Lindsay Graham says, Trump thought he was doing the right thing in his mind. So no shade. He has done nothing wrong because he didn't intend to.

Schiff on Trump's Ukraine conspiracy theory: "Why would anyone believe Rudy Giuliani over Christopher Wray."