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Tired? of going "here", but when a man has abrain such as Drumph, may as well. Drumph left the Iran Nuclear Deal because it was Obama's. He is still making up for how he "made him look" with the Banquet quotes and the failure of not proving him "born in Kenya".

Father Time says this is sadly fascinating.

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Trump’s Iran speech seemed like a victory lap. It actually made things worse.

"TRUMP'S DEEPENING IRAN MORASS ALL STARTED WITH ONE BIG LIE"

This was not the Iran “victory” speech Trump needed to give.

By Alex [e-mail]@vox.com Jan 8, 2020, 12:50pm EST


President Trump addresses the situation with Iran during a press conference on January 8, 2020. Saul Loeb/AFP via Getty Images

Donald Trump had the opportunity of his presidency to stand at a White House lectern, look out on the country he leads, and declare to the world his victory over Iran after a deadly standoff.

He blew that chance.

Trump .. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/8/21056711/trump-iran-speech-statement-iraq-strike .. did the bare minimum in his Wednesday morning address, which was to recognize that Iran’s weak attack on two American military sites in Iraq .. https://www.vox.com/2020/1/7/21055928/iran-attack-al-asad-iraq-trump-soleimani .. was a deescalation. Instead of specifically targeting US troops at al-Asad airbase and Erbil, it appears Tehran may have missed them on purpose, leading to zero US or Iraqi casualties.

“Iran appears to be standing down, which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world,” Trump said.

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Trump: No war with Iran — at least for now
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/8/21056711/trump-iran-speech-statement-iraq-strike

[Insert: Not before the election.]

But then his remarks took a turn: He chose not to take the victory lap and use the occasion to boast about his diplomatic and military prowess. He instead escalated his pressure campaign against Iran — the same campaign that fueled this crisis in the first place.

The three ways Trump needlessly escalated the Iran standoff

First, Trump announced he would impose new sanctions on the Islamic Republic, increasing America’s economic squeeze .. https://www.vox.com/world/2019/12/3/20938049/brian-hook-trump-iran-maximum-pressure .. on the country that has already decimated its economy.

“The United States will immediately impose additional punishing economic sanctions on the Iranian regime,” Trump said. “These powerful sanctions will remain until Iran changes its behavior.”

Iran aims to force Trump to lift the sanctions campaign by bombing oil tankers in international waters, striking Saudi oil fields, and even downing US drones. Those actions partly helped bring Washington and Tehran to the brink of all-out war this week. Adding further sanctions on Iran is more likely to lead Tehran to lash out again than to step back from the brink.


President Trump, flanked by advisers, reads from a teleprompter as he addresses the situation with Iran. Eric Baradat/AFP via Getty Images

Second, Trump called on all parties to the Iran nuclear deal to exit it like the US did in 2018. “The time has come for the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia, and China to ... break away from the remnants of the Iran deal or JCPOA, and we must all work together toward making a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer and more peaceful place,” he stated.

That’s unlikely to happen, as those European nations want to do business with Iran and Russia and China are Tehran’s allies. But it gives the Islamic Republic another reason to unshackle itself from the nuclear deal’s restrictions and move closer to obtaining a nuclear weapon. Earlier this week, the Iranian regime said it would no longer honor its nuclear enrichment limits .. https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-says-it-will-no-longer-comply-with-nuclear-enrichment-limits-under-2015-deal-11578249461 — possibly inching it closer to getting the bomb.

Finally, Trump called on the US’s NATO allies to be “much more involved in the Middle East process.” It’s not entirely clear what the president means by this, especially since NATO .. https://www.660citynews.com/2020/01/07/no-canadian-casualties-reported-in-iraq-missile-attack/ .. forces are already in the Middle East, including at the bases in Iraq that were targeted by Iran Tuesday night.

One possibility is that Trump wants more troops from NATO countries to deploy to the region to fend off future Iranian aggression. It’s doubtful allies would have the appetite for that, though, and surely Iran wouldn’t want more Western forces in the area. After all, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani .. https://www.vox.com/2020/1/7/21055928/iran-attack-al-asad-iraq-trump-soleimani .. stated on Wednesday morning that Iran’s goal now is to force US troops out of the Middle East. Having more troops enter the region to join American ones would be viewed as an escalation by Tehran.

Some international security experts, like the Atlantic Council’s Barry Pavel, see Trump’s rhetoric as consistent with his previous policies. “He still wants to get a deal” with Iran, he told me. “That’s his top policy goal. That’s how he got started and that’s where he wants to end up.” And Trump was never going to stop his maximum-pressure campaign against Iran, and one speech was never going to make both countries suddenly become friends.

But he did have a chance not to take another shot at Iran when it was waving the white flag. With these new statements and actions, then, Trump made the US-Iran standoff worse when he could’ve made it better.

Watch Trump’s full statement on Vox’s Facebook .. https://www.facebook.com/223649167822693/videos/629080037860003/ .. page or the White House YouTube channel ..

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https://www.vox.com/2020/1/8/21056881/trump-iran-statement-iraq-standing-down

[Tearex]

Oh yes! That deal was Sooo strong.
Sooo strong that it expired in just a couple short years.
Sooo strong it allowed us to inspect......well, nothing.
Sooo strong it allowed them to continue developing ICB's.
Sooo strong it funded their terrorist activities across the middle east.
Sooo strong that BO sent it to the Senate for ratification. Hell no, BO outsource an American treaty policy to himself because of the huge bipartisan agreement in the Senate that the deal was pure crap.


The master mind behind 35 years of terror in IRAN and the rest of the middle east, the mastermind behind killing hundreds of US troops,the mastermind behind the recent attack on our embassy........That SOB is dead, dead, dead!

SOOO STRONG!!!