Replies to post #85436 on Lehman Brothers Financial SA (LEHNQ)

[Docsavag]

Cotton, has there ever been a reconciliation of the $8.6B that JPM absconded with? If but a portion of the $8.6B was to cover their CT holdings, then one would assume that such funds should have been evenly distributed across all CT holdings, not just theirs.

[stockmojo9]

What more do they want, cotton?

We're way past the 5-year deferral and they've re-allocated to other classes not guaranteed payment ahead of subordinated notes.

I'm not an attorney so that keeps me out of Court and discussions with many on this Board.

I do find you agreeable, however.

mojo

[cottonisking]

1) JPMCB "controlled" LBHI
2) LBHI was "controlled by" JPMCB
3) LBHI and JPMCB are codebtors "common control with" in LBHI's chapter 11

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"The largest single drain on Lehman’s liquidity came ultimately from JPMorgan itself. In the week prior to Lehman’s bankruptcy, JPMorgan used the explicit threat of ceasing to clear Lehman’s tri-party repo to extract $8.6 billion in cash from Lehman. This left Lehman’s European broker-dealer with a projected cash shortfall of $4.5 billion, forcing Lehman to file for bankruptcy in the early morning hours of Sept. 15, 2008."


https://www.quinnemanuel.com/the-firm/publications/article-december-2018-what-we-learned-as-lehman-s-bankruptcy-litigators/

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"ORDERED that LBHI's Capital Trust Preferred Securities are parity with LBHI's Capital Trust Preferred Securities held by JPMCB or JPMCB's affiliates per LBHI's relevant prospectuses and with or without a securities holder's, prior to purchase, knowledge of and reliance on LBHI’s August and September 2008 guaranties and security agreements in favor of JPMCB’s subsidiaries and affiliates."

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See docket 46304 from 2014 for JPMCB's Cts issues as it relates to the CTs' back interest payment which is $1.2 Billion.

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"GUARANTEE AGREEMENT


This GUARANTEE AGREEMENT (the "Guarantee"), dated as of March
17, 2003, is executed and delivered by Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.,
a Delaware corporation (the "Guarantor"), and JPMorgan Chase Bank, as
trustee (the "Guarantee Trustee"), for the benefit of the Holders (as
defined herein) from time to time of the Securities (as defined
herein) of Lehman Brothers Holdings Capital Trust III, a Delaware
statutory trust (the "Trust"). "
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" (g) the following terms have the following meanings:

"Affiliate" has the same meaning as given to that term in Rule
405 of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any successor rule
thereunder."





https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806085/000104746903008869/a2105775zex-4_05.htm



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"17 CFR § 230.405 - Definitions of terms.
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§ 230.405 Definitions of terms.
Unless the context otherwise requires, all terms used in §§ 230.400 to
230.494, inclusive, or in the forms for registration have the same
meanings as in the Act and in the general rules and regulations. In
addition, the following definitions apply, unless the context
otherwise requires:

Affiliate. An affiliate of, or person affiliated with, a specified
person, is a person that directly, or indirectly through one or more
intermediaries, controls or is controlled by, or is under common
control with, the person specified."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/17/230.405