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newmedman

06/30/19 2:02 PM

#316550 RE: conix #316538

That's the immigration impasse explained from one side. A powerful piece like that should cite some actual statistics, eh'.

You know there's two houses in the Congress right?

Now if this guy you gave kudos to really understood how law works he should run for Congress too.

The House sent a bill to the Senate and now the Senate gets to debate and revise the bill and send it back to the house regardless of all the decided shortcomings that the author suggests. Hell, he could sit down and write his own bill and introduce it to Congress on his own!

In the simplest terms my friend.


Therein lies the rub. The Senate has done nothing for 10 years. NOTHING!

Unless you count stacking the Judicial branch with political shills and confirming criminals for Cabinet positions. Then I'd give Mitch a Mercer A+. Let's not forget his wife that allocates our money to his state for his own political gain...

The bottom line is that we all get it, the border has always been there. Remember the "Boat People" that were flooding into Florida? I vaguely do and I'm not going to go back there now, but my best recollection is that it was getting bad. Instead of shooting their boats out of the water, we took them in, teated them DECENTLY and then went over to their Country and helped them to ease the crisis before it continued to expand.

Have you heard anything about the "Boat People" since? I haven't....

I have heard a ton of other bullshit since then though about our supposed interests in that specific nation. The other side of the mouth of the GOP.

These are people, they are not a fucking swarm of killer bees. Even if they were, how would you solve the problem? I would go to the hive and get the queen, not try to swing my fists at the swarm as my neighbors and I get stung.

We, as a nation, used to reach out and try to help persecuted people around the globe. Now, we are in on the persecution party. Who doesn't want a better life for themselves or especially their children? I know what it's like to be poor in this country, let alone living in a narco-state.

I personally don't give a fuck because I am the last in my bloodline and never had kids, but I shudder to think what these children have to deal with going forward.

Build your stupid wall you idiots and rot here while you're at it.
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arizona1

06/30/19 10:25 PM

#316569 RE: conix #316538

The Democratic Candidates Are in a Bubble on Immigration

Evil horrible woman who gets her rocks off watching Trumptards torture children!!

He's planning to keep immigrant kids at GITMO!!!!!!!!!
the Defense Department awarded a $23 million dollar contract to construct a “Contingency Mass Migration Complex” at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Station”
According to the Q&A attached to the solicitation for that award, the contractor specifically inquired about holding migrant children at that facility and was told that several migrant children have in fact been held there within the past few years.

With the government running out of space to detain migrant children, the Trump administration has floated GITMO as a solution and the award specifies that children and families may be detained at the GITMO facility under the terms of the contract. https://www.fbo.gov/utils/dZip?base=cdfcf19ad2e8f7541f38c41ceb6bf6c9&class=document_package_archive&id=025cf3182db7dc43f0ac5d8368995e67
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fuagf

06/30/19 11:35 PM

#316577 RE: conix #316538

conix, Nice one-sided article by Andrew Sullivan in which he omits to tell you that Trump's actions went a long way to creating the present immigration crisis.

"The Immigration impasse explained so well.
Kudos to Andrew Sullivan.
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First compare Sullivan's position in the your article with his words ..
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.. excerpt outed here ..
I don’t know how you can watch the video above without thinking of previous attempts in human history – a “cancer on our body!” – to demonize, persecute and expel marginal minorities in defense of a racially homogeneous country. Period. In a particularly glaring twist, the New York Times commissioned the video then simply refused to air it.
Taken from .. Who’s Afraid Of The Truth?
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Now, posted again, in full.

DrHarleyboy, You elected a wrecking ball.

Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault.

"Donald Trump’s Central America strategy is both cruel and incompetent"
.. and the two back ..
"Inside Trump’s Disastrous ‘Secret’ Drug War Plans for Central America
"The Border Patrol Was Monstrous Under Obama. Imagine How Bad It Is Under Trump.""


[...]

Of course, the president did not create the conditions in Central America

[INSERT - though Trump's policies are contributing to it, see the post ..
Donald Trump’s Central America strategy is both cruel and incompetent
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that have driven migrants north. But his obsession with the wall, along with a series of other misguided policies, have severely hampered the U.S. government’s response to this flood. The wall has become a profound distraction and waste of time for policymakers and agency leadership as other solutions that would prove far more useful to our real immigration problems have gone neglected.

Virtually all of the desperate families from Central America who seek asylum, whether entitled to protection or not, are permitted to remain indefinitely in the United Sates while awaiting formal adjudication of their claims. These claims cannot be processed fairly, quickly and efficiently, as the immigration courts face a backlog of nearly a million cases. In fiscal year 2018, less than 15 percent of applicants from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were granted asylum, but only 1.5 percent .. https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/McAleenan%20Testimony.pdf .. of Central American family units apprehended in 2017 have been deported. The rest have, so far, stayed. In other words, Trump, a president fixated on stopping illegal immigration, has presided over a dramatic increase in the numbers of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.

It is a system that was almost designed to be exploited. Smugglers and migrant advocacy organizations like Pueblo Sin Fronteras are encouraging distressed families from Central America to travel north through Mexico, surrender to U.S. officials at the border and ask for political asylum. The ability to stay and work in the United States for years as their claims plod through the immigration court system is a powerful inducement to come here. Since the Trump administration has done so little to speed up the processing of claims, it is likely that these families will be staying in the U.S. for years. Indeed, the president’s government shutdown over the border wall only worsened the immigration court backlog.

The president’s wall is, in other words, unmoored from operational reality. A wall will not make Central America a better place to live. A wall will not stop asylum seekers from coming to the United States and being able to claim asylum. A wall will not address, let alone fix, the issues with America’s asylum system and immigration courts. The president’s attacks on Mexico and Central America, coupled with the lack of a coherent strategy for the region, have made harder the already difficult work of addressing the underlying drivers of illegal migration from Central America. Instead of working to address these problems, the president has actively made the problem worse by redirecting resources and attention to his irrelevant wall, antagonizing the people he needs to partner with to actually solve immigration problems, exacerbating backlogs and resource shortages by shutting down the government and announcing enforcement measures that cannot be sustained and which result in increasing numbers of migrants calling his bluffs.

The president may want to implement harsh border security policies, but he has faltered on the basics of governing. The administration has failed at the fundamental tasks of coordinating its plans with the relevant agencies and working through the hard problems of implementation. For instance, the administration’s “zero tolerance” policy of prosecuting illegal border-crossers wasted scarce prosecutorial and detention resources and could never be operationally sustained. The family separation policy—a stain on America’s moral authority—was not vetted and coordinated within the government, leading to confused implementation that still has not been resolved. Instead, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, to preserve her position, has been reduced to a yes woman, kowtowing to every pronouncement the president makes. The enduring images of the secretary’s tenure have been her lame denials of a family separation policy and lockstep support of the president’s wall demands, even as many in her department worked without pay during the shutdown. The professionals who know what it takes to solve the problem are not consulted but rather relegated to following orders.

Trump made stopping illegal immigration his signature issue. It is time to acknowledge that he has failed miserably—so we can start thinking about how to clean up the mess he has made.
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Your mob

and here we go... a little tough to make sense of, but it is the "deep" south.
Woman indicted for manslaughter after miscarrying when shot
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in all it's inhumane glory.
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