Replies to post #224885 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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Abduction of Americans Reflects Fraying Security in Iraqi South. Let's Just Cut the Bull and Call It Bush's Civil War

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O.J.'s murder book and Fox special leave sore taste in many mouths

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First sentence ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!! love it

before reading further let us set the scene

we are in "bighouse" or sorrry "longhouse" somewhere i
n the rockies in Canada .. burning wood polluting de
atmishfear but logging only for survival wid little
embellishment. It is very quiet and snow is fairy
like falling we pass the pipe the drummer is der with
Missy looking after her man .. within the drumbeat,
later in de hothouse we sit.

Den vee close our eyes and we go to de neverlands ..

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the 3rd paragragh ..

"The strategic rationale for any meaningful Australian role in Asia is compromised by its meager population'

... weekday NY trains crowded, sub stations crowded, streets crowded .. Sydney only the first he is right on pop..

Dunno, he should know, but just fell postion is enough to give it strategic importance in American Japanese and indonesian eys. We are very involved with Indonesia as the US has been with Iran in the past and probably still is while they carry on their public brawl over enrichment.

The suggestion that our involvement in Iraq "has roused the ire of Muslims across Asia, which precipitated the deadly Bali bombings in 2005,"is denied by Howard the PM, and he says the radicals hated us already because of our involvement with the independence movement in East Timor, which of course is an ongoing trouble spot, also. he may be right that could have justified Bali, but he's wrong on his dumb, stupid contention that our invovement and our ass licking has not put us up the unpopularity list of the fundamentalists pushing the fighting.

DON'T LIKE HIS "Call me a skeptic, but somehow the strategic equation of 20 million people facing off against 200 million angry neighbors fails to add up." AT ALL. FEELS THE CREATING THE ENEMY THING. JUST NOT RIGHT TO SAY THAT 200M ARE 'FACING OFF' AGAINST 20M, IS IT? NOT EVEN IN A "STRATEGIC EQUATION". LAST I READ OUR FORCES ARE FAR SUPERIOR TO INDONESIA'S IF ANYBODY WNTS TO DEBATE THE FRIGGIN' THREAT FROM iNDONESIA. THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF ISLANDS AND IT IS EASY TO FOMENT ACTION AGAINST THEM. THEY DON'T WNT TO FIGHT A FRIGGIN' WAR AGAINST AUSTRALIA, BUT THEN SADDAM DIDN'T WANT TO AGAINST YOU GUYS, EITHER.

"Australia has to choose a new role for itself" .. don't immed. see a connection between US pullout in Iraq, then Australia would too, I guess and the situation down here???

and not sure if your timetable will be shortened meaningfully by the Dem's .. wasn't there some bi-partisanship in the drafting of it?

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hey that's loooooooooonnngggggggggg one, lady .. 2/3 ha, hope
my musings are closer to da marco .. now he was a real *^%$#.
para 4 .. ok
para 6 .. think research would show off da mark by general
opinion .. that could of course, encourage one to think then
it may be more likely to be right??? but that's another
story ..HA HA AS THE HOTELIER VIDEO MAN THAT VAS A LAUGH
but dat anudder story.

'Two Wongs don't make a white' and ws said, but i
wouldn't use it like this; from my experience on dis board is
more sick sweet baddie icing on da cake, for me. It makes me
wonder 'bout him, but may be in trouble as not reading ahead
to get the "whole picture" first. stewie. what? oh, nothing I
guess.

"As if the strategic position explained above were not challenging
enough" .. well his whole premise is "200 vs 20" CAN'T YOU
JUST SEE IT .. 10 OF THOSe LITTLE BASTARDOS COMING
STRAIGHT
AT YOU .. WELL 8 OF THEM MIGHT JUST SHAKE YOUR HAND
AND TELL
THE OTHER TWO TO SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT .. THAT'S A
POSSIBILITY, TOO.

TO ME IS MORE OF DAT GBTBJH BS few would care about the
policies of 40 odd years ago .. there is racism here just as every
damn country, but not as he describes.

Accurate quote but cheap shot at Arthur Caldwell, not popular
with the establishment as I think he wanted to nationalize da
banks, so a ceapie against Labour suggests this guy a bush man.

Pauline Hanson was a racist in her outlook and agenda; argued
job's in front of free trade which attracted many. Headed by
far right evangelist type Tony Abbott, now, umm ..pop 1 ..has
held a number of impt. places in the ministry once a Howard
protege now unelectable as PM so out of favoritism. Anyway she
ended up in jail for some months on a member of party member
registration violation, and something else. Her co-founder
went in too. .. hey that's another wtory. yeah.

"Interestingly, Hanson went on to blame Prime Minister John
Howard for her subsequent election losses, claiming that he
had hijacked her own policies" .. WELL DON'T THEY ALL AND HE
HIJACKED SOME OF THE IMMIGRATION POLICIES HE USED FEAR AS SHE
DID .. JUST HOW MUCH HE HIJACKED IS CONJECTURE THEY PROBALY
WOULD HAVE DONE MOST OF IT EARLIER .. JUST THAT SHE PUT IT OUT
FRONT FIRST .. but it wasn't a real big deal in the end.

Fraser didn't hijack her racist policies, but her
trade/unemployment and "all those terroRists coming in on
boats" fear thing .. she lost the election she lost because
she didn't have enough supporters on the far right.

NO WAY JOSE BET NO WAY COULD ANY FAIR RATIONAL OBJECTIVE RESEARCH OF THE SITUATION COME UP WITH THAT.

that mainstream politicians had embraced the alienation of
Asians as a core value."

THAT'S CRAP .. THER E WA AN ELECTION YOU CLOT .. A CORE VALUE
IS MUSTICULTURALISM NOT YOUR ALIENATION .. nothing of the sort though there is/was
already there was is heaps of exclusion around on all sides no WAY WAS IT as
it as this guy suggest .. the core value was to win the
elections and feed false fears in the electerate to that end.

That's it foR me now, gotta relax, look at snaps, listen to music and get INTO DA GARDIN.

Just can't do this thing any shorter .. great exercise and
trainig , but had it for moo meow

stuffed as a kanga
scared in da lights
hooked on a bull-bar
done gone fini ... damn the drivers ..