Yeah, or...Gary was sitting in PV's office waiting for PV to return from the restroom and sees a passport laying on the desk and decides to have a look. Then PV walks in and says "what are you doing looking at my passport?" Gary replies "oh, I thought it was mine" and places it back on the desk and says, "so, tell me about your financials." Then PV's nostrils begin to flare and that starts the interview.