That's what I asked him and never got a reply, other than he is not the CEO at FH and claimed that he has been trying to get management to do them. I thought he was a director or some such lofty position at FH. We shall see, but I would think that it would be around the time of this million bottle making. He did say that the financials would be out by November 15th but he walked back from the lofty expectations by saying the gross was 30- 40% higher than expectations but the net would be about the same due to increased costs of raw products, marketing etc.