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PegnVA

08/05/18 3:43 PM

#286009 RE: nlightn #286003

Thank you.

I think many of us intuit that Trump’s reign is not going to end well – the question becomes: how can we mitigate the damage?
That's the $64,000.00 question!

Commenting on Trump’s supporters, Jung points out that “people would never have been taken in and carried away so completely if this figure had not been a reflected image …
I have to take issue with Jung's theory. Trump no more believes what he tells his adoring fans than I do, but he knows how to manipulate them and make them believe he alone has the answers...
DONALD TRUMP ACCEPTS GOP NOMINATION, SAYS "I ALONE CAN FIX" THE SYSTEM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/...trump-republican.../87385658/

As if completing his psychological analysis on our president’s genius for deceiving himself, Jung explains, “Believing one’s own lies when the wish is father to the lie is a well-known hysterical symptom and a distinct sign of inferiority.”[28] This makes sense to me, as Trump’s braggadocio certainly seems, from the psychological point of view, as if it is a compensation for deep feelings of inferiority. Jung elaborates, “Inferiority feelings are usually a sign of inferior feeling — which is not just a play on words.”[29] Jung’s point rings true – from all appearances, Donald Trump’s feeling function and sense of empathy seem highly underdeveloped and stunted.

From his statements, I realize that Jung is of the opinion that Trump is suffering from hysteria, which is something I hadn’t considered, yet it makes perfect sense upon reflection. People like Trump who suffer from hysteria invariably fall prey to what Jung refers to as “prestige psychology,” evidenced by his typical need “to flaunt his merits and insist on them, of his insatiable thirst for recognition, admiration, adulation.”






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fuagf

08/05/18 10:42 PM

#286026 RE: nlightn #286003

nlightn, Excellent. Paul Levy, with Jung's help, nails Trump, and his followers. His article brought back to
mind many thoughts of Jung read back late 'late 50s-'70s. The 6th paragraph is one of the most insightful,

"fuagf,...yes, very familiar with Jung's work. and speaking of Trump,..."

"I am familiar with Jung’s idea that when the darkness of the unconscious begins to stir, if these forces are not understood, they will magnetically draw people together who will become unwitting instruments for what Jung calls “the powers of darkness” to act themselves out in the world. A leader, such as Donald Trump, will invariably appear—in my language, get “dreamed up”—who will express, reflect and, like a lightning rod, amplify these darker forces. This leader is typically someone who, in Jung’s words, has “the least resistance, the least sense of responsibility and … the greatest will to power.”[my emphasis][6] Jung comments that this leader “will let loose everything that is ready to burst forth.”[7] As if offering a prophetic warning, Jung says with complete certainty, “a mass always produces a ‘Leader,’ who infallibly becomes the victim of his own inflated ego-consciousness, as numerous examples in history show.”[8] I think many of us intuit that Trump’s reign is not going to end well – the question becomes: how can we mitigate the damage?"

hell, the whole article is.

One of the books read decades ago was Erich Neumann's - The Origins and History of
Consciousness
(Foreword by Jung dated March 1, 1949). First, it looks, on TA here

2012 - [ouch early rubbish, then down a bit] - Jung at heart
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=76038624 ,
with Nuemann's book at the bottom.

Two earlier mentions on other boards

properlynumb, I remember reading in The Origins and History of
Consciousness by Erich Neumann of his idea of the very beginning
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62254217

THE ORIGINS AND HISTORY OF CONSCIOUSNESS ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38079318

Many have spotted Trump's insecurity

Donald Trump, the man who callously separated children
from their parents and forever traumatized them in the process,
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=142687886

He's always been insecure and flabby. It looks like his parents beat him into submission. No
wonder he preys on people less powerful. A shrink could have a field day with him under hypnosis.
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See also:

The power of vulnerability | Brené Brown
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The t-rump mob's labeling all disagreement as fake is beyond the
pale, and it's good to see them getting some fully-deserved backlash...
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fuagf

08/06/18 9:37 PM

#286095 RE: nlightn #286003

Trump at a precarious moment in his presidency: Privately brooding and publicly roaring

"What Would C.G. Jung Say about Donald Trump?"

VIDEO - Trump bashes the news media, praises Fox News
President Trump on Aug. 4 called CNN "fake" and MSNBC "corrupt" but praised Fox News
personalities during a rally for congressional hopeful Troy Balderson. (The Washington Post)

by Philip Rucker, Robert Costa and Ashley Parker August 5 Email the author

In private, President Trump spent much of the past week brooding, as he often does. He has been anxious about the Russia ­investigation’s widening fallout, with his former campaign chairman standing trial. And he has fretted that he is failing to accrue enough political credit for what he claims as triumphs.

At rare moments of introspection for the famously self-centered president, Trump has also expressed to confidants lingering unease about how some in his orbit — including his eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. — are ensnared in the Russia probe, in his assessment simply because of their ­connection to him.

Yet in public, Trump is a man roaring. The president, more than ever, is channeling his internal frustration and fear into a ravenous maw of grievance and invective. He is churning out false statements with greater frequency and attacking his perceived enemies with intensifying fury. A fresh broadside came on Twitter at 11:37 p.m. Friday, mocking basketball superstar LeBron James and calling CNN’s Don Lemon “the dumbest man on television.”

[ Trump acknowledges, defends 2016 meeting between son, Kremlin-aligned lawyer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-acknowledges-defends-2016-meeting-between-son-kremlin-aligned-lawyer/2018/08/05/cc37ea5e-98c1-11e8-843b-36e177f3081c_story.html?utm_term=.468adabfcae1 ]


This is the new, uneasy reality for Trump at an especially precarious moment of his presidency, with the Republican Party struggling to keep control of Congress, where a Democratic takeover brings with it the specter of ­impeachment, and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s grip seeming to tighten on the president and his circle.

Trump, who has decamped to his New Jersey golf estate for an 11-day working vacation, is at a critical juncture in the Russia investigation as he decides in coming days whether to sit for an interview with Mueller or defy investigators and risk being issued a subpoena.

--

On the special counsel’s probe, Rudolph W. Giuliani, personal
attorney for President Trump, said the president “doesn’t
think they have anything, and he wants the country to
move on.” (Alex Wong/Getty Images)
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“He’s more definitive than ever: This investigation should end now, and Mueller should put out what he has,” said Rudolph W. Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney. “He doesn’t think they have anything, and he wants the country to move on.”

This portrait of Trump behind the scenes is based on interviews with 14 administration officials, presidential friends and outside advisers to the White House, many of whom spoke only on the condition of anonymity to share candid assessments.

Trump appeared to stand in conflict with his own government when he blasted the “Russian hoax” just hours after his national security team gathered at the White House on Thursday in a rare show of force to warn that Russia is yet again trying to interfere in U.S. elections. But a White House spokesman said Trump instructed them to hold the news conference and was adamant that they explain what the administration is doing to safeguard the ­midterm elections.

The frequency of the president’s mistruths has picked up, as well. The Washington Post Fact Checker found last week .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/?utm_term=.9e9f0e06fe6b .. that Trump has now made 4,229 false or misleading claims so far in his presidency — an average of nearly 7.6 such claims per day, and an increase of 978 in just two months.

The campaign trail — where Trump held three mega-rallies in five days — has allowed him something of a respite, a chance for the reality-TV-star-turned-president to repackage his anger as something more campy, delivered with a showman’s élan.

[Insert YouTube of embedded video]


President Trump criticized the media, calling many reports "fake news" at a rally on Aug. 2 in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. (The Washington Post)

On Thursday night, the president turned a Pennsylvania rally to support Republican Senate candidate Lou Barletta into a Trumpian grieve-fest, returning repeatedly to his favorite foil — the “fake, fake, disgusting news,” as he bellowed — to portray himself as a victim of chronically unfair coverage from “horrible, horrendous people.”

“The president is rightfully frustrated,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters Thursday, going on to argue that “90 percent of the coverage on him is negative.”

Trump’s indignation with the Mueller investigation has long been evident, but it is boiling over with growing ferocity. He has tweeted the phrase “witch hunt” a combined 46 times in June and July, up from 29 times in April and May, and more and more he is calling out Mueller by name.

Trump’s lawyers say it is the president himself who is calling the shots in what is becoming an all-out public relations blitz to discredit Mueller.

“With his great feel for public opinion and how to deal with it, he has a sense about what would work, what to say,” Giuliani said. “He sort of determines the public strategy, and we get his approval and input for the legal strategy.”

Trump has told some associates that Giuliani has convinced him Mueller has nothing incriminating about him. “Rudy’s told him the other player is bluffing with a pair of 2’s,” said one Trump adviser. And Trump has latched onto Giuliani’s talking point .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/07/30/rudy-giuliani-obliterates-the-goal-posts-on-trump-russia-collusion/?utm_term=.22ae90900686 .. that “collusion is not a crime,” believing it is catchy and brilliantly simplistic, according to people with knowledge of internal talks.

Still, Trump has confided to friends and advisers that he is worried the Mueller probe could destroy the lives of what he calls “innocent and decent people” — namely Trump Jr., who is under scrutiny by Mueller for his role organizing a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with Russians promising dirt on Hillary Clinton. As one adviser described the president’s thinking, he does not believe his son purposefully broke the law, but is fearful nonetheless that Trump Jr. inadvertently may have wandered into legal ­jeopardy.

[Trump bullshitting again.]

In a tweet early Sunday, Trump called it “a complete fabrication” that he was worried about his eldest son. “This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics — and it went nowhere,” the president wrote. “I did not know about it.”

Trump also has seethed privately about the trial of Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman. As coverage of the trial played on cable television in a blinking loop all around him this past week, he kept hearing another name on the shows: Trump.

[ Venting about press, Trump has repeatedly sought to ban reporters over questions
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/venting-about-press-trump-has-repeatedly-sought-to-ban-reporters-over-questions/2018/07/27/0e73a068-91a9-11e8-8322-b5482bf5e0f5_story.html?utm_term=.9951bd6769ef ]


The president privately fumed to one friend after another — on Air Force One, in the Oval Office and over the phone — that Manafort “has absolutely nothing to do with me,” according to people close to him. Although Trump tells them he feels bad for Manafort, he also has been complimentary of Judge T.S. Ellis, who has asked sharp questions of Mueller’s prosecutors.

“He is completely outraged by the way Manafort has been treated, with the solitary confinement and all of that,” Giuliani said. “It’s obvious to him that they’re all but torturing Manafort in order to try to get him to flip.”

As Trump sees it, Mueller is aggressively prosecuting Manafort — detailing his alleged tax evasion and bank fraud scheme and flashing snapshots of his extravagant wardrobe for the jury — to deliberately embarrass Trump and undermine his presidency. And, according to people familiar with the president’s thinking, he believes the news ­media is complicit.

From his White House residence Wednesday morning, Trump tweeted that Manafort may be treated .. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1024680095343108097 .. worse by the criminal justice system than Al “Scarface” Capone, whom he identified as “legendary mob boss, killer and ‘Public Enemy Number One.’ ” He later called around to some advisers asking what they thought of the tweet, proud that he had come up with the Capone comparison.

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), who has been discussing the case with Trump, said, “If after two years of investigating possible Russian collusion, the crown jewel is bringing charges against Paul Manafort, then one would have to ask, why did the FBI not embark on that effort without a special prosecutor?”

[ Meadows, transparently bullshitting.]

Trump on Wednesday took his complaint that his political appointees at the Justice Department were not protecting him and his family and associates from the investigation to a new level when he tweeted, apparently on a whim, that “Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now.” Trump’s lawyers later explained that the president was voicing his opinion, not giving an order, lest the presidential tweet provide Mueller fresh evidence of obstruction of justice.

Trump’s advisers said they never thought the president would actually move to stop the probe. “There is no desire here to have that whole sideshow,” Giuliani said. But they knew Trump would not let what he considers the unfair prosecution of Manafort and media coverage pass without speaking publicly.

One prominent Trump ally in the evangelical community, Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr., seemed to channel the president’s views when he later tweeted that Sessions was a “phony pretending to be pro-” Trump, a tweet that was circulated widely among Trump’s friends and aides.

[ John Kelly intends to remain as Trump’s chief of staff through 2020 reelection bid
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-kelly-intends-to-remain-as-trumps-chief-of-staff-through-2020-reelection/2018/07/31/832bbf1c-94dd-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html?utm_term=.712f5078d313 ]


For nearly 80 minutes on stage in a packed Wilkes-Barre, Pa., arena, where supporters cheered his flourishes and cut him off at the mere mention of Clinton’s name to chant “Lock her up,” the president was able to relieve some of his pressure with a combination of riffing and shtick. It was an act that, finally, he controlled.

Susan Price, 72, drove through pelting rain to attend — and, when the skies cleared as she pulled up at the arena, she saw symbolism.

“We want Trump to do exactly what he’s been doing and do more,” Price said. “And give him the encouragement to overcome all of the various forces that are trying to take him down, whatever their motives are.”

He is ramping up his travel schedule — a rigorous pace that he recently boasted would grow to six or seven days a week this fall — which will keep him in front of his adoring base. Midterm elections typically are referendums on the incumbent president, but by injecting himself so squarely at the center of this year’s House and Senate contests, Trump is further personalizing the Nov. 6 elections.

“The president is the single best messenger for the Republican Party, and every time he is on the campaign trail helping other Republicans win, it is a reminder to the American people of what this administration has been able to accomplish in a very short period of time,” said Corey Lewandowski, an unofficial Trump adviser who served as his first campaign ­manager.

Trump loves the frenzied, raucous energy of these events, and often leaves them buoyed, people close to him said. At times, when advisers have proposed a rally in several weeks, the president has agreed to do it — but suggested they hold it as soon as possible.

To the delight of aides, Trump also has become more disciplined on the campaign trail, keeping at least part of his focus on the candidate he is there to support, and often calling him or her onstage. Early on, Trump sometimes appeared at rallies where the local candidate seemed secondary — as in Alabama last year, where he famously delivered something of an anti-endorsement of then-Sen. Luther Strange, who looked on uncomfortably.

But advisers have impressed upon Trump the value of keeping his focus on the Republicans he is supporting, in part by showing him the positive headlines and articles in the local media that follow when he successfully stays on message.

There have been other signs of stability, too. After months of speculation that John F. Kelly would leave his job as White House chief of staff — fueled in part by Trump, who had been surveying associates about a replacement — Kelly announced .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-kelly-intends-to-remain-as-trumps-chief-of-staff-through-2020-reelection/2018/07/31/832bbf1c-94dd-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html?utm_term=.712f5078d313 .. Monday that he would be staying on through the president’s 2020 reelection campaign.

But while Trump settles in with Kelly, he increasingly is seeking counsel from outside allies who are urging a more combative approach to the Russia probe. He has been in regular contact with Meadows and Fox News Channel host Sean Hannity, while Lewandowski and former deputy campaign manager David Bossie accompanied him on Air Force One to Tuesday’s rally in Tampa, where Trump publicly praised them.

Trump made a surprise call .. https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/08/01/president-trump-calls-the-show/ .. into Rush Limbaugh’s radio talk show Wednesday to congratulate the conservative icon on his 30th anniversary on the air. Trump mused aloud with Limbaugh about whether it would be more politically advantageous for him to shut down the government over border wall funding before or after the November elections.

“I’ve heard a lot of people saying, ‘Oh, don’t do it before the election. We’ll upset the applecart,’ ” Trump said. But, he added, “I actually think it’s a great campaign issue. I think it would be great before.”

Philip Bump in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., contributed to this report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-at-a-precarious-moment-in-his-presidency-privately-brooding-and-publicly-roaring/2018/08/04/4b463842-9736-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html?utm_term=.b25b301d6d32

In musing with Limbaugh whether to shut down the government before or after coming elections it seems Trump sees the government, or at least Congress, as his very own political campaign plaything.

See also:

Did Trump Just Admit to an Impeachable Offense?
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