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[migo]

any discussion at all is basically impossible when all they do is repeat things back in the PeeWee Herman style of "I know you are but what am I?" which accomplishes nothing but thread disruption and avoiding discussing the topic on the thread on the board.

it is how they argue.
wrestle with pigs...

[BullNBear52]

I'm reading this book as I have given up debating the fact that it is not Hillary and Obama's fault.

Beats banging your head against the wall.

Chris Hayes Reviews Michiko Kakutani’s Book About Our Post-Truth Era

THE DEATH OF TRUTH
Notes on Falsehood in the Age of Trump
By Michiko Kakutani
208 pp. Tim Duggan Books. $22.

The president is a liar. He lies about matters of the utmost consequence (nuclear diplomacy) and about the most trivial (his golf game). He lies about things you can see with your own eyes. He lies about things he said just moments ago. He lies the way a woodpecker attacks a tree: compulsively, insistently, instinctively. He lies until your temples throb. He lies until you want to submerge your head in a bucket of ice and pray for release.

And yet millions of Americans either believe what he says or delight in his obvious deceptions. One of the country’s two major political coalitions is devoted to justifying and defending those lies to the point of absurdity. Republicans will argue all at once that the president is not tearing immigrant children from their parents, that he is doing it but it’s necessary to deter future immigrants, that the children aren’t really the children of those who are bringing them but rather coached to pretend they are by smugglers, and that Obama did the same thing and now Donald Trump has mercifully ended the practice. It feels very much as if something has ripped in the fabric of reality of America at this moment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/books/review/michiko-kakutani-death-of-truth.html