I few months ago I emailed company regarding business plan growth profit margins expect yada yada. Pretty generic stuff anyway they got back to me and said they had non at the time lol. I know they have a deal with second cup now. But if they supply second cup. And their not producers. They need to get products from another grower so less profit margins. Basically its a meddle man company/ liason outfit between bigger outfits retail and growers.