I traded options sometimes and while there are manipulations in the short term, in the long term the PPS is still representative of the fundamentals of a company. And so I don't believe that the sp called "Embedded Derivative Function" ? ~ or simply option play is meant to drive WMIH pps to 4. At the end of the day, if the stock just go to 4 on no fundamentals then it will crash in a heartbeat, And so the drive to 4 has to be caused by some very good news and not because of the "Embedded Derivative Function" ? ~...