Ok Fred, why don't you take the time to get a definition that will be accepted here, on I-hub and let say on SI (then of course, you'll be required, at least weekly, to take a stance according to your own definition, why bother otherwise)? I gave a very concise explanation to my bullish stance here #msg-1297677 ("specifically, "days not weeks,how more concise do you and Babylon need it???) and it is very tiring to have to regurgitate every post I post. It is becoming unpleasant to post when everyone has his snickering remarks in lieu of contributions to the discussion.