And...to touch on another point you tried to make...Ethicon/JNJ do NOT ever just give products away...they are either equal to or more expensive than the market leader or the next competitor...Their suture, biosurgery, staplers, energy, ortho implants, etc ARE ALL THE MOST EXPENSIVE. In their space...When titan announced that the price has gone up on everything, it REEKED of JNJ influence, IMO...to me, that was an obvious give away that Titan is no longer in control.