Replies to post #198204 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[PegnVA]

Thanks. We could also get into a back 'n forth about how the Jews were treated in Germany while the Pope (Catholic church) closed their eyes, but what's the point. Sure we should learn from the past and hopefully the Catholic church has done so, but I am talking about NOW.

The Decider bills himself as the War President and he's determined to live up to his own billing. Have you ever heard someone in this admin even mention "negotiation"? The word may be whispered in certain WH circles, but as long as The Decider sits in the oval office it will go nowhere. 2009 can't come too soon!

[ergo sum]

That same Christian suffering continues down to the present. In the early years of the 20th century, the Muslim Ottoman Empire murdered more than 1 million Armenian Christians for ethnic, economic, but also religious reasons. Many Turks and other Muslims continue to deny that massive crime even today.
http://www.archden.org/dcr/news.php?e=379&s=2&a=7992

Arriving in May, 1919, Kemal organized the Turkish Nationalist party and began to form an army. When the Turks were aroused by the Greek landing at Smyrna (now Izmir) he convened nationalist congresses at Erzurum (July, 1919) and Sivas (Sept.). Outlawed by the sultan, who was in the hands of the Allies in Constantinople, he set up a rival government at Ankara. The signing of the Treaty of Sèvres by the Constantinople government made the split with Ankara final. 4 With the tacit consent of Soviet Russia, Kemal retook Kars and Ardahan from Armenia (1920). Then, taking advantage of disagreements among the Allies, he expelled the Greeks from Anatolia in a brilliant campaign (1921–22). For his victory he received the official name Ghazi [victorious]. On Nov. 1, 1922, Kemal proclaimed the abolition of the sultanate, and Sultan Muhammad VI fled to a British warship. The Treaty of Lausanne (1923; see Lausanne, Treaty of) was a triumph for the nationalist cause; an independent and sovereign Turkey was recognized by the European powers.
http://www.bartleby.com/65/at/Ataturk.html