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11/21/16 4:03 PM

#261779 RE: e-ore #261778

e-ore -- the wingbutt/bagnut/teabuggerer lies keep mutating:

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President
Aug 29, 2016
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661 [with embedded video, and comments]

Dearly Deported
A record number of people were "removed" from the U.S. during President Obama's tenure as President.
Claim: A record number of people were deported from the U.S. during Obama's tenure as President.
TRUE
Oct 20, 2016
http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/

(linked in) http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=126692429 and preceding and following

fuagf

11/21/16 6:55 PM

#261803 RE: e-ore #261778

e-ore, Illegal Immigrants Don't Lower Our Wages Or Take Our Jobs

Art Carden, Contributor

Aug 28, 2015 @ 09:14 AM

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.


Anti-immigration voters and candidates are on the wrong side of history and the
wrong side of social science on this. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)


Immigration has taken center stage in the race for the Republican Presidential nomination. The conventional wisdom says illegal immigrants take American jobs and lower American wages.

That conventional wisdom is wrong.

According to an April 2015 symposium on the effects of illegal immigrants in the Southern Economic Journal .. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/soej.v81.4/issuetoc , illegal immigrants actually raise wages for documented/native workers. Meanwhile, rules preventing illegal immigrants from getting driver’s licenses raise our car insurance premiums and E-Verify requirements raise the cost of doing business and reduce employment.

Using data from Georgia, Julie Hotchkiss, Myriam Quispe-Agnoli, and Fernando Rios-Avila find that documented workers’ wages rise with increases in the share of undocumented workers in a worker’s county and employed by their employers. The biggest boosts are for workers in low- and medium-skill firms that hire a lot of undocumented immigrants with an even larger boost for workers in low-skill firms with a lot of undocumented workers in the county and industry.

Why? The law of comparative advantage says we get more productive when we have more trading partners, and the arrival of undocumented workers with limited English skills frees up low-skill American workers who can then specialize in tasks that require better English. In July, I had the honor of sharing the stage with Ann Coulter, and fellow Forbes contributor Rick Ungar on Fox Business’s Stossel show .. http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4444282753001/stossel-07312015-liar-liar/?playlist_id=1794596212001#sp=show-clips , and I got to explain how unskilled immigrants make us more productive at the end of the show.

Some states make it harder for undocumented workers to get driver’s licenses. Mauricio Caceres and Kenneth P. Jameson estimate that drivers in states with these restrictions pay an average of about $17.22 (in 2009 dollars) more for car insurance because they are surrounded by more uninsured motorists.

Many states are hustling to attract foreign investment. Alabama, where I live, has given lots of money to foreign manufacturers (Mercedes and Airbus, for example) in order to entice them to locate in Alabama. Catalina Amuendo-Dorantes, Cynthia Bansak, and Allan A. Zebedee report results suggesting that even after controlling for possible confounders E-Verify reduces states’ ability to attract investment from foreign companies, with employment growth at foreign affiliates falling by 3-4.7%.

Shifting the symposium’s focus to the labor market, Pia M. Orrenius and Madeline Zavodny estimate that E-Verify lowers wages for unauthorized male Mexican immigrants, raises wages for US-born Hispanic men, increases the labor force participation rate of undocumented Mexican female immigrants, raises employment for Mexican-born naturalized citizens, and has essentially no effect on whites’ earnings.

E-Verify compliance is costly, which could reduce total employment. In the final contribution to the symposium, Sarah Bohn, Magnus Lofstrom, and Steven Raphael conclude that the 2007 Legal Arizona Workers Act reduced employment among low-skilled Arizona workers, albeit with higher wages for those who are still employed. They find that the law did reduce Arizona’s population of undocumented immigrants, but with the negative unintended consequence of reducing employment opportunities for those they were trying to protect from undocumented immigrant competition.

The researchers are careful to discuss the limitations of the papers in the symposium, but the the results are broadly consistent with existing evidence on the effects of immigration. Anti-immigration voters and candidates are on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of social science on this: opening the borders—even just a little bit—could make a huge difference for the world’s poor while making Americans richer as well.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/artcarden/2015/08/28/how-do-illegal-immigrants-affect-american-workers-the-answer-might-surprise-you/#3778f3256b10

.. so you see your "The more things change, the more they stay the same?
"All Americans, not only in the States most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.
"

is certainly true in that conservatives will continue spreading misinformation about immigrants in general, and more specifically undocumented
immigrants, maybe until the end of time .. there are many on the board exposing that lie, these from a cursory search .. year of post included ..

2011 - Cost of Illegal Immigrants
Q: Do illegal immigrants cost $338.3 billion dollars a year? More than the Iraq war?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=59295664

2013 - Immigrants Subsidize, Rather Than Drain, Medicare
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=89975464

2014 - Immigration and American Jobs
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=108026088

------ 8 Of the Most Vicious Myths About Illegal Immigrants
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104563637

2015 - Surprise! Donald Trump is wrong about immigrants and crime.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=118407680

These two picked up just by the headings, too.

2015 - The Republican Party has an allergy to facts
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=117111016

2012 - Is The Republican Party Becoming Fascist?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=79659699