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gotmilk

07/26/03 7:59 AM

#27459 RE: ljk #27458

Linda, The #reply-19148990 Linda Battles a Read Mark Bug.

Or is it a Read Bug Mark, or Mark a Read Bug :o)

ok,
Sorry,
I'am not that type of person to enter a discussion of this nature
where one feels a "hurt" done onto them by another, and will not
take the steps needed to remove the dung stepped on, from the
bottom of their shoes since they will wait until Hell Freezes Over
for the person responsible to capture the dog's do-do to arrive
and do "the right thing" and clean the mess under your shoe.

For myself i will choose the path of quickest method available
that will accomplish removal of stuff that will prevent me from
a continuation of my journey thru life.

This attitude of mine to clean up after others is a direct result
of my observations of what happens to those that refuse to.

So yes, stand you ground in front of that Dung Hill you observe.

Do not walk around it as a work around, nor pay you way over it.

But as you observed about you experience with it, it hinders you.

Doug
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Susie924

07/26/03 8:44 AM

#27462 RE: ljk #27458

I guess you just aren't going to let it go are you?
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Churak

07/26/03 8:48 AM

#27463 RE: ljk #27458

ljk...first of all..18 posts per day is sufficient for someone to make their point. You are trying to negotiate a premium service for which you are simply too cheap to pay for. You just don't get it. 18 posts per day is what people who don't want to pay for premium features get. 18 posts per day for free. get it?

Supposing they did double it to 36 free per day as you suggest? Then LINDA2 would come along & say 36 is not enough, we need 50. Then 75. Then 100. Blah blah blah

Having said that, if iHub truly wanted to take a run @ RB, they would allow unlimited posting on stock boards only for freebie members. Still have the premium features available only on a yealy subscription basis. Yeah, it would be an ADMIN nightmare but that is the purpose of board MODERATORS. But that, IMHO, is the only way to kill off RB. Open the floodgates & ADMIN the hell out of the influx.
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Ruellit

07/26/03 10:55 AM

#27465 RE: ljk #27458

If Matt wants to increase the number of messages for all free members, to double the number they are now, that would make sense. As the site becomes more active, there will be more threads in which most people will want to participate, and the 18 limit will become more constraining for all free members. I believe that limit also constrains the service from growing, so it would be to the advantage of iHub to increase the number of messages allowed because the site is growing now and there's more of interest.

Excellent point, but I would take it another step. How about unlimited free posts for all on the free side of Ihub. With a more frequently offered Happy Hour during the market hours. Say once or twice a week. JTOL

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Mattu

07/26/03 12:47 PM

#27474 RE: ljk #27458

I agree, Linda. It's a bug. I'll add it to Bob's list.
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Bob Zumbrunnen

07/28/03 4:46 PM

#27620 RE: ljk #27458

It's also the way it works, sure. But the way it works is based on a bug.

I believe a bug is an unintentional error in the way a program works. This does not qualify. It works *exactly* as it's intended to work. There are (little-) known bugs in the software and this isn't even close to being one.

What you want the software to do is a bigger inconvenience to far more than one person.

Having a button to mark the last actually read, in itself, is just a workaround, and not a fix for the bug.

It's not a workaround. It's an extra feature.

SI doesn't have that feature. I'm pretty sure RB and Yahoo don't either.

And I'm pretty sure those sites handle unread messages similarly to this one. If not, that doesn't bother me. I think our way is better.

If Matt wants to increase the number of messages for all free members, to double the number they are now, that would make sense. As the site becomes more active, there will be more threads in which most people will want to participate, and the 18 limit will become more constraining for all free members. I believe that limit also constrains the service from growing, so it would be to the advantage of iHub to increase the number of messages allowed because the site is growing now and there's more of interest.

Now that you mention it, I forgot that I was going to reduce that number to 10 at the end of the year. I need to have a look and see if I should do that.

We don't make money from posts. We make money from subscriptions. We sell cows. It's not in our best interests as a business to give away unlimited free milk. Or an amount of milk greater than what anyone would want daily.

Matt and I are both very aware of the dynamics here and how it all relates to our paychecks, and we both know that increasing the number of free posts people have will not increase our paychecks. Quite the contrary. It will make the site even more expensive to run (the computing power and bandwidth used by free members isn't free) and will make it more difficult to run as a civil site.

We allow a little bit of posting for free. But we're not going to use the RB model of giving effectively unlimited (which 36 would be) posting privileges to everyone who comes by. We run this as a business. RB doesn't.