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Trump Staff Said To Be Suicidal As Republican Nominee Is Completely Out Of Control

By Jason Easley on Wed, Aug 3rd, 2016 at 10:52 am

It is being reported from within the campaign that Trump's own staff is suicidal as the Republican nominee is listening to no one but himself as he drives his presidential campaign into the ground.

John Harwood of CNBC reported:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/ally-of-trump-staffer-paul-manafort-the-staff-is-suicidal-hes-mailing-it-in.html

I exchanged messages Tuesday evening with a longtime ally of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, whom I asked about who was calling the shots in the campaign. The response indicated that Manafort, a veteran of Republican politics brought in this spring for the transition from primaries to the general election, has lost control over his candidate.

“Manafort not challenging (Trump) anymore,” Manafort’s ally wrote. “Mailing it in. Staff suicidal.”

The Trump campaign responded to Harwood by claiming that everything is fine and that the reporter is a liberal.

Everything is most definitely not fine. The evidence that Donald Trump is self-destructing was all over the news for anyone with a pair of eyes to see. After Trump had continued to attack the family of a fallen military hero for days, it was clear that there is no one in the campaign who could stop him.

Trump’s insistence on trying to pay back Paul Ryan and John McCain [ http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/02/donald-trump-stabs-speaker-ryan-sen-john-mccain.html ] for criticizing him were omens that the nominee is more focused on petty grudges than winning the election.

The truth is that Donald Trump has been out of control for the duration of his presidential campaign. His behavior is nothing new. What saved Trump in the past was the Republican primary calendar. Trump would say something horrid, but the focus of the media would shift to the next primary or caucus, and Trump would be off the hook.

In the general election, Trump’s behavior is the focus, and there is nothing out there to save Republicans from their terrible nominee. Conservative media is trying to distract from Trump with the allegation that Obama sent Iran $400 million in exchange for hostages, but it won’t work.

Trump’s staff is suicidal with good reason. Their boss is losing and destroying everything in his path, and it seems that there is no one who can save Donald Trump from himself.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/03/trump-campaign-staff-suicidal-republican-nominee-completely-control.html

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Anti-Abortion Event: Satan Used Susan B. Anthony To Put Women In The Workforce

"Donald Trump Calls Hillary Clinton ‘The Devil’"

Submitted by Miranda Blue on Monday, 8/8/2016 4:08 pm

Last month, Operation Save America organized a week of anti-abortion protests in Wichita, Kansas .. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/operation-save-america-declares-scotus-rulings-abortion-gay-rights-null-and-void , to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Summer of Mercy, the famous 1991 abortion protest event. Participants in OSA’s event were treated every night to a lecture at their host church including, one evening, a talk about the “deception of the homosexual agenda” that touched on how Satan worked through Susan B. Anthony to get women into the workforce.

Bishop Otis Kenner, a Louisiana clergyman who does African-American outreach for OSA, told participants that through Satan, “Susan B. Anthony and the women’s lib and equal opportunity has devalued our women and has put them into the workforce”:

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The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 11:3, Christ is the head of man, man is the head of the woman and God is the head of Christ. Satan has devalued our women. Proverbs Chapter 31 talks about the virtuous woman and talks about her occupation in the home. She rises up early before her family gets up to prepare meat for them. She goes into the marketplace, she sews, she cooks, she invests. But Susan B. Anthony and the women’s lib and equal opportunity has devalued our women and has put them into the workforce. Whoever told our women that to be a homemaker was subservient?
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Kenner said that women should be “pampered” and have a “good time” as long as they do all of the childcare work and are home when their husband gets home from work:

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What it looks like, I got steel-toe boots on with a bandana around my head because I’ve been in the workforce, and my wife comes home looking like me? I mean, I just believe that women were to be pampered and was to be loved. You should get your nails done as much as you want, your feet done as much as you want, I mean just go shopping and all that kind of stuff, take care of the children, watch over them, just have yourself a good time, just be home when I get home from work. That’s not so bad, is it?
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“Here’s the deal,” he concluded. “Because Satan has broken the governmental authority of God, he had put the women in the workforce. Who are raising our children? The government. And our public schools, they our turning our children out one by one.”

Operation Save America recently posted a video of the speech on YouTube

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anti-abortion-event-satan-used-susan-b-anthony-put-women-workforce

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Signs of Trouble in Ukraine Prompt Question: What’s Vladimir Putin Up To?

The Interpreter

By MAX FISHER AUG. 11, 2016


Ukrainian military members on the front lines in eastern Ukraine .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/ukraine/index.html?inline=nyt-geo , near the city of Avdeyevka. Credit Gleb Garanich/Reuters

WASHINGTON — Russia .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/russiaandtheformersovietunion/index.html?inline=nyt-geo .. is conducting a series of military and rhetorical escalations toward Ukraine that have anxious Western analysts once again looking for clues as to President Vladimir V. Putin .. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/vladimir_v_putin/index.html?inline=nyt-per ’s next move.

On Wednesday, Russia’s state security agency, the F.S.B., claimed .. http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/press/message/single.htm!id%3D10437869%40fsbMessage.html .. that it had blocked an attack on Crimea by “sabotage-terrorist groups” sponsored by the Ukrainian government, though two Russian soldiers were killed.

Mr. Putin accused the Ukrainian government of using terrorism to incite conflict over Crimea, which has been heavily militarized since Russia annexed it from Ukraine in 2014. He warned .. http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-ukraine-crimea-tighter-security/27914563.html .. ominously, “We obviously will not let such things slide by.”

Russia has increased its military presence in and around Crimea, adding to fears that Moscow might be planning another military intervention in Ukraine. But while Mr. Putin is nothing if not unpredictable, analysts say this may be about Russia seeking diplomatic leverage rather than prepping for war.
What is actually happening in Crimea?

There are two sets of overlapping events, both shrouded in mystery: the supposed recent attack on Crimea and Russia’s buildup there.

The official Russian account lays out the first as follows: It began late on Saturday, when F.S.B. officers discovered a group of saboteurs just on the Crimean side of the land border with Ukraine. A firefight ended with one F.S.B. officer killed and several of the saboteurs captured. Then on Monday, Ukrainian special forces attempted to cross into Crimea, killing one Russian soldier in what the agency called “massive firing” over the border.

The Russian media later cited government sources as saying the captured saboteurs were Crimean residents who had confessed to planning attacks on local tourist facilities. Moscow insists that Ukraine sponsored the plot.

It’s difficult to judge the truth of these claims. Ukraine denies them, and both the United States and the European Union say Russia has provided no evidence. An open-source analysis group, the Digital Forensic Research Lab, found some indications .. https://medium.com/dfrlab/https-medium-com-dfrlab-competing-narratives-6ff353366f70#.mj34gb87n .. of a firefight on Saturday, but little to back up Moscow’s grander claims. Russia has been known to distort .. http://shorensteincenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/d88-dougherty.pdf .. or misstate events to serve political ends, particularly within the fog of Ukraine’s still-ongoing conflict.

That doesn’t mean that Russia’s claims are all false. Ukrainian militias last year sabotaged .. https://news.vice.com/article/anti-russian-saboteurs-plunge-crimea-into-darkness-by-blowing-up-electrical-towers .. electricity pylons that power Crimea, and some of them are involved in criminal activity and human rights violations. An attempted attack in Crimea is not out of the question, though there is little reason to suspect the Ukrainian government would sponsor such a plot.

Whatever happened, images found by open-source analysts suggest that Russia has been escalating its military presence in Crimea since at least Saturday — before the supposed attack occurred. These show convoys of heavy weapons moving on the peninsula, including missile systems intended for coastal defense.

A disturbingly familiar Russian escalation

Some reports indicate that Russia’s troops in Crimea were already scheduled for a new rotation about now, which would help explain the activity, though it would be quite a coincidence that this just happened to fall during some of the highest tensions since the 2014 annexation.

Whatever transpired over the weekend, Mr. Putin has unquestionably escalated in his language toward Ukraine, choosing to use this episode — however real it was — for some larger aim.

Analysts have pointed out disturbing parallels with how Russia behaved just before previous military actions against Ukraine.

In February 2014, similar speeches and military maneuvers provided cover for Crimean volunteer militias to seize the peninsula, then still controlled by Ukraine, only to reveal they were in fact Russian special forces launching a military occupation.

That August, as Russian-backed separatists lost ground in eastern Ukraine, Mr. Putin stationed troops along the border, warning they might be necessary to “protect” ethnic Russian civilians in Ukraine who he said were under attack. He orchestrated an aid convoy into the region that, according to NATO, was mere cover for a Russian invasion force.

What is Mr. Putin planning in Crimea?

Some have wondered whether Moscow might be plotting another intervention. Fighting has increased in eastern Ukraine, as it did before the August 2014 incursion.

But that seeming parallel may be the point, meant to create fear of military action — rather than actual action — that will give Mr. Putin leverage with Ukraine and with Western countries.

Mark Galeotti, a New York University professor who studies Russia, pointed out that Crimea would make little sense as a staging ground for military action against eastern Ukraine, which borders mainland Russia but not Crimea, and that the rest of the country is better defended.

“It’s highly unlikely that the Russians are truly planning some major offensive,” Mr. Galeotti said. Rather, “We’re looking at a classic Russian strategy of building up tension.”

International peace talks over Ukraine, once the mechanism by which Mr. Putin forced contact with Western leaders who had shunned him over annexing Crimea, have become increasingly regarded as fruitless and irrelevant.

By dangling the threat of renewed conflict, Mr. Putin gives the talks a new purpose: to coax him back from the brink.

“It’s a standard Putin tactic — he wants to try to go there from a position of strength,” Mr. Galeotti said of the next peace talks, planned for early September. “And the only real strength is to say, ‘I could make things much, much worse if I wanted to.’ ”
Positioning for a bargain with the West

Mr. Putin also said this week that it made little sense to continue negotiations amid the Crimea tensions, forcing the other parties to persuade him to come back to the table — and putting himself at the center of the process.

What does this actually get him? For one, it allows Russia to continue asserting itself as a global power, even though its economy is smaller than Australia’s .. http://tinyurl.com/zjvnptq . For another, it positions Moscow as having a veto over Ukraine’s sovereignty, keeping the country within some degree of Russian control.

It may also serve Mr. Putin’s long-held hopes of a grand bargain with the United States that would settle their disputes over Ukraine and Syria — on terms favorable to Moscow, naturally — as well as ending Western sanctions against Russia.

Mr. Putin has repeatedly hinted at this goal since his nation’s economy began collapsing in late 2014, due mostly to the declining value of its oil and gas exports. Since intervening in Syria last fall, he has repeatedly invited Western powers to join him in a grand coalition to fight extremists.

But Russian leaders may believe that they would need to secure such a deal before January, when President Obama will leave office. Russian officials tend to view Hillary Clinton as the likely successor and as more hostile to Moscow. Donald J. Trump, while conspicuously friendly toward Russia, is still seen as unpredictable.

But Mr. Obama is seen as “looking for resolutions, not conflicts,” Mr. Galeotti said. “So there is a sense that there’s a closing window of opportunity to get something done quickly.”

In the meantime, should no grand bargain come, Mr. Putin appears happy to keep Russia’s weaker neighbor guessing about what’s coming next.

Correction: August 11, 2016
An earlier version of this article misstated the year that Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine. It was 2014, not 2013.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/12/world/europe/vladimir-putin-crimea-russia.html?_r=0

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Donald Trump: "the only way we can lose...is if cheating goes on"

"Donald Trump Calls Hillary Clinton ‘The Devil’ "

Trump is nonchalantly taking a sledgehammer to the bedrock of the American government.

Updated by Dara Lind on August 13, 2016, 8:06 a.m. ET @DLind [e-mail]


(Scott Olson/Getty Images)

This could end badly.

For weeks, a theme of Trump's campaign has been that America — everything from the economy to the schedule of fall debates — is "rigged" against him and his voters. Lately, he's added "the election" to that list.

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Sopan Deb
@SopanDeb

Trump: "I'm afraid the election’s gonna be rigged, I have to be honest."
5:45 AM - 2 Aug 2016
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Now, Trump is saying that Democrats "rigging" the election is the only way he could lose. Here's what he said to a rally in Pennsylvania — a state where the RealClearPolitics polling average .. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton-5633.html .. has Hillary Clinton up by 9.2 percentage points — on Friday: "the only way we can lose, in my opinion, I really mean this, Pennsylvania, is if cheating goes on."

And he didn't stop there. He actively encouraged his followers to act as vigilante poll workers: "Go down to certain areas and watch and study make sure other people don't come in and vote five times."

A page on Trump's website allows supporters to "Volunteer to be a Trump Election Observer .. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/lp/volunteer-to-be-a-trump-election-observer ;" sign up, and you're sent a confirmation email that promises the Trump campaign will do "everything that we are legally allowed to do to stop crooked Hillary from rigging this election."

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Jamil Smith 13 Aug
@JamilSmith

This looks like a sign-up sheet for an Election Day goon squad. Our elders know about this kind of “observation.” pic.twitter.com/rEtWDA4BhH

Michael Gray @graywolf
@JamilSmith pic.twitter.com/Xpj6CpFNkZ
2:11 PM - 13 Aug 2016

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Donald Trump has spent the last year gleefully taking a sledgehammer to norms of American political campaigns and rhetoric: the importance of judicial independence .. http://www.vox.com/2016/5/31/11818964/trump-judge-university-mexican ; the expectation that candidates will release their tax returns .. http://www.vox.com/2016/5/12/11662122/donald-trump-tax-return ; the proposition that when you get called out on a lie, you stop making it .. http://www.vox.com/2016/7/19/12226316/trump-never-admit-mistakes ; the taboo against openly encouraging violence .. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11219256/trump-violent .

Now it looks like he’s already preparing to take on the biggest, most important norm of all: that when all the votes are counted, and you have fewer of them, you admit it and concede.

You don’t have to believe that Donald Trump is deliberately trying to undermine the foundation of American democracy to understand how dangerous this is. In fact, you probably shouldn’t believe he’s doing this out of malice — given what we know about Trump, it’s more likely he’s engaging in some preemptive butt covering than trying to subvert the democratic process. (That would take work.) But as with so much else that Trump has done over the course of his campaign, he’s tapping into sentiments too powerful for him to control.

A lot of Americans are very ready to believe their opponents steal elections

An underrated truth of American politics is that large numbers of people in both major parties believe that if their side doesn’t win an election, it’ll be because the other side cheated. As Joseph E. Uscinski and Joseph M. Parent wrote in 2014 .. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-uscinski-election-fraud-20141103-story.html :

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Just before the [2012] election, we asked a national sample of respondents about the likelihood of voter fraud if their preferred presidential candidate did not win. About 50% said fraud would have been very or somewhat likely. When asked if someone was using "dirty tricks" in the election, about 85% believed that some candidate, campaign or political group was.

These sentiments are not driven by members of one party or the other: Near equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats (between 40% and 50%) said fraud would be very or somewhat likely. Each side believes that if they lose, cheating is to blame, and they believe it about equally.
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The 2012 election wasn’t exactly a high-water mark for trust in politics; many supporters of Mitt Romney went into election night believing firmly that polls were "skewed" to disfavor their candidate. But if we’ve learned anything from the Trump phenomenon, it’s that things a lot of people believe in private acquire a whole new power when they’re validated by politicians themselves.

For Trump, of course, the idea that the system is rigged is one of the biggest themes of his campaign. It’s what allows him to break with Republican economic orthodoxy to attack pro-business economic policies ("rigged against workers"). It’s what allows him to talk about the perils posed by Mexican and Muslim immigration to the US from a position of sympathy with the "victims" of crime and terrorism (the idea that Democrats "care more about illegal immigrants than they do about Americans"). It’s what allows him to boil down his attack on his opponent’s character to a single epithet: Crooked Hillary.

In a year when anti-establishment anger is running high, it’s an appealing message. In fact, there are plenty of people — dissident Democrats and Republicans alike — who don’t like Donald Trump per se, but who already believe the Democratic Party rigged the primaries for Hillary Clinton, or that Democrats are trying to rig the general election for her.


Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty

Bernie Sanders may have officially endorsed Clinton for the Democratic nomination. But a rump caucus of his supporters continue to insist that her win was illegitimate: that it was engineered by a biased Democratic National Committee .. http://www.vox.com/2016/7/23/12261020/dnc-email-leaks-explained , or secured thanks to the anti-democratic actions of superdelegates .. http://www.vox.com/2016/5/26/11778158/shaun-king-democratic-party .. before the primary campaign started.

Sanders himself hasn’t done much to humor those theories. Donald Trump totally has.

He told Hannity on Monday .. http://www.vox.com/2016/8/2/12350534/trump-warns-rigged-election-clinton .. that the Democratic primary was "rigged against Bernie Sanders with this superdelegates nonsense." On Sunday, in an interview with George Stephanopoulos .. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-donald-trump-vice-president-joe-biden/story?id=41020870 , he simply implied that Clinton didn’t beat Sanders at all:

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DONALD TRUMP: [...] she couldn't beat Bernie, okay?

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, she did beat him.

DONALD TRUMP: Well, barely. And there's questions even about that, but barely.
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Many Republican voters are already worried about voter fraud

Ultimately, there are not a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters who are going to vote for Donald Trump. But there are a lot of Republican voters who are going to vote for him. And the Republican rank and file has been worried about stolen elections — in the form of widespread voter fraud — for several years.



Over the past several days, courts have struck down several state laws that restrict voting: in North Carolina, Wisconsin, Kansas, and Texas. In the eyes of the courts, these laws have (whether intentionally or not) discriminated against nonwhite voters.

But in the eyes of the legislators who passed them, the laws are an important bulwark against voter fraud. (Voter fraud is vanishingly rare .. http://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5979377/voter-id-laws-fix-a-fake-problem-by-creating-a-real-one , but that doesn’t stop many Republicans from believing it’s widespread.) And when the courts strike them down, they’re simply opening the door for someone to come in and steal the election.

Trump himself has made this connection. When discussing his "rigged election" theory with Bill O’Reilly .. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-voter-id-rigged , he said, "I’m looking at all of these decisions coming on down from the standpoint of identification, voter ID. And I’m saying, ‘What do you mean, you don’t have to have voter ID to now go in and vote?’ And it’s a little bit scary. [...] People are going to walk in, they are going to vote 10 times maybe."

That's the purpose of asking supporters to go to "certain areas" and "make sure" people don't vote five times. The idea that such intimidation — like other restrictions on the vote — might successfully deter people from voting even once doesn't register.

But unlike some of the things Trump says, which have no bearing on standard GOP talking points, this one comes directly from the Republican state officials pushing voter ID laws themselves.

In Kansas, Secretary of State Kris Kobach .. http://tinyurl.com/z46txbp .. has said, "There is a significant problem in Kansas and in the rest of the country of aliens getting on our voting rolls. With so many close elections in Kansas, having a handful of votes that are cast by aliens can swing an election."

In North Carolina, the state Senate leader and House speaker have been even more explicit. When the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down several provisions of North Carolina voting laws last week, they speculated .. http://www.philberger.org/berger_moore_respond_to_politically_motivated_ruling_blocking_voter_id , "We can only wonder if the intent is to reopen the door for voter fraud, potentially allowing fellow Democrat politicians like Hillary Clinton and Roy Cooper to steal the election."

Trump is probably acting out of carelessness, not malice

If Donald Trump were a traditional presidential candidate — loyal to his party and disciplined in his messaging — it would be fair to look at all this and conclude that the Republican Party, led by its presidential nominee, is laying the groundwork to delegitimize a Clinton win in November.

But to be honest, Donald Trump probably isn’t thinking that far ahead. Instead, he seems to be worried he’s going to lose, and so he’s trying to make sure everyone but him gets blamed for it.

The day before Trump started hinting about the election being "rigged," he attempted to raise a stink about the "unfair" scheduling of the fall debates (two of which will happen at the same time as nationally televised NFL games).

And a few days before that — at a rally in Colorado — he blamed his very own supporters for a potential Trump loss:

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Alexandra Jaffe
@ajjaffe

Trump preemptively blames voters for a loss: "Just in case we don’t make it because you people get lazy and don’t vote, CO's very important"
7:15 AM - 30 Jul 2016
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Yes, Donald Trump really likes winning. But he also likes to have a ready-made excuse when he doesn’t win. As National Review .. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432518/donald-trumps-failures-his-excuses-resemble-obamas .. chronicled in March, Trump has a long and ignominious record of blaming everybody else when a Trump venture fails.

Trump seems to be looking for scapegoats for his own loss months before the first votes are even counted: the Democrats, the debate commission, his own voters, even local fire marshals .. http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-fire-marshals-crowd-2016-8 . Taken altogether, it looks less like the efforts of someone preparing to mount a post-election challenge (which, after all, takes a lot of work) than the efforts of someone trying to make sure he emerges from a loss unscathed.

Trump is playing with fire

Whether or not Trump intends to contest the legitimacy of Clinton’s election after the fact, he’s certainly giving license to his followers to do just that. Trump’s followers adore him in part because he says things they’d always believed but had simply been afraid to say; if he stops saying them, they won’t stop believing them. Just ask Bernie Sanders.

Sanders has spent the past few weeks laboring to get his supporters to embrace Hillary Clinton. They’ve been trying to restore her legitimacy as a candidate.

But after some of Sanders .. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/22/11477926/bernie-sanders-aides-fight ’s top aides had spent months .. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/22/11477926/bernie-sanders-aides-fight .. reassuring supporters that Sanders really could win the nomination (no matter what they read in the press) — and that when the numbers indicated they were losing, "there’s obviously something wrong with the numbers .. http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/sanders-campaign-manager-wrong-numbers-221135 " — the campaign couldn’t suddenly herd its supporters into the Clinton camp en masse.

Sanders supporters who had convinced themselves that their candidate was robbed of a victory weren’t necessarily going to change their minds just because Sanders said they should. It’s hard to restore legitimacy to a system once you’ve challenged it.


Felix Dlangamandla/Foto24 via Getty
This is what an actual contested election (in South Africa) looks like.

Trump, meanwhile, is spending the weeks before the election telling his followers that the election is so illegitimate that they need to be physically present at polling places to monitor it. That raises the possibility of violence on Election Day. It certainly lays the groundwork for anger and denial afterward — even if Trump himself walks away and takes that nice long vacation he talks about.

Trumpism will absolutely last after Trump. There are too many people who are too willing to feed and guide the anger he’s brought to the surface of politics for it not to.

Before the Republican National Convention, Roger Stone called for Trump supporters to hold "days of rage .. http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/04/02/roger-stone-calls-for-days-of-rage-with-stop-the-steal-convention-effort/ " in Cleveland. And if anti-Trump delegates managed to prevent him from winning the nomination, Stone said, Trump’s campaign would retaliate .. http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/roger-stone-donald-trump-delegates-convention-hotel-221586 .

"We will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal," he said on a podcast. "We’ll tell you who the culprits are. We urge you to visit their hotel and find them."

Stone didn’t have to resort to such measures at the RNC. But he’s turning his attention to the general election.

Stone recorded a YouTube video .. http://www.infowars.com/roger-stone-hillary-plans-to-steal-election/ .. several days ago talking about how Clinton will steal the election. And in an interview with Breitbart last week .. http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/29/roger-stone-milo-show-trump-can-fight-voter-fraud/ , he said that Trump’s supporters will "shut the government down" if she wins.

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Their inauguration will be a rhetorical, and when I mean civil disobedience, not violence, but it will be a bloodbath. The government will be shut down if they attempt to steal this and swear Hillary in. No, we will not stand for it.
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Stone’s imagined bloodbath may be "rhetorical." But he can’t control exactly what Trump’s supporters do with his words. It’s hard to restore legitimacy to a system once you’ve challenged it, and it’s extremely hard to tell people that even if a system is rotten to the core it doesn’t deserve an extreme response.

Donald Trump has often appeared ignorant of the implications of his most provocative rhetoric. When those implications turn into real-life consequences that even he can’t ignore, he tiptoes back from the brink. When he offered to pay the legal fees of anyone who was arrested for restraining anti-Trump protesters, and then a Trump supporter punched a protester in the face, he quietly reneged on his promise.

The problem for Trump is that his supporters believe what he says. If he says a Trump loss means the election has been stolen, there are millions of people prepared to believe it. And on the day after the election, professional provocateurs on talk radio and the internet may be ready to tell them to reject the results of the election and the peaceful transfer of power that comes with it.

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[Embed] Watch: This election is about normal vs. abnormal

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/2/12342600/trump-rigged-clinton-steal-election

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PS: How good are you at riggin', Don?