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[Homebrew]

Interesting, FOX didn't broadcast Khan's speech that night.

[StephanieVanbryce]

Donald Trump’s slander of Captain Humayun Khan’s family is horrifying, even for Trump

What kind of person is Donald Trump?

by Ezra Klein on July 30, 2016, 2:07 p.m. ET

The most emotional moment of the Democratic National Convention was the speech by Khizr Khan, the bereaved father of Army Captain Humayun Khan. With his wife Ghazala by his side, Khan recalled his son’s character, his faith, his patriotism — and, ultimately, his courageous death in the service of the country he loved, and the fellow soldiers he was protecting.

Video at the Link

And, yes, the Khan family is Muslim. Under Trump’s proposed policies, they would be innately suspect; had he been president when they immigrated to America, they would’ve been barred from entering, and Humayun Khan never would have served.

"Have you ever been to Arlington Cemetery?" Khan asked Trump. "Go look at the graves of brave patriots who died defending the United States of America. You will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities. You have sacrificed nothing and no one."

On ABC this morning, Trump responded to Khan’s speech. I don’t know what I expected from Trump. Maybe he would show some gentleness. Maybe he would show some empathy. Maybe he would refuse to comment. Maybe he would attack Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama’s foreign policy leadership. All of those responses would have been fine.

Trump’s actual response, though, wasn’t fine.

"If you look at his wife, she was standing there," he said, [ http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-father-fallen-soldier-ive-made-lot/story?id=41015051 ] on national television. "She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me."

This wasn’t a slip of the tongue. In an interview [ http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/opinion/trumps-thunderbolts.html?_r=1 ] with Maureen Dowd, Trump took the same tack. "I’d like to hear his wife say something," he said.

Let’s be very clear about what Trump is doing here: as ABC wrote, he’s suggesting "Khan’s wife didn’t speak because she was forbidden to as a Muslim." This is bullshit. It is flatly, verifiably, false. But that’s almost beside the point.

Trump listened to a speech by the bereaved father of a fallen Muslim soldier and used it to slander the fallen soldier’s family. That was his response. That is his character.

At this point, I honestly don’t know what to say. I don’t have new language for this, I haven’t found another way of saying this isn’t okay, this isn’t kind, this isn’t decent. Instead, I’ll note James Fallows’s response. [ http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/07/trump-time-capsule-65-id-like-to-hear-the-wife-say-something/493745/ ] He quotes Joseph Welch, speaking to Senator Joseph McCarthy in 1954.

"Until this moment," he said, "I think I never really gauged your cruelty."

If you would like to see Ghazala Khan speak, you can do so in this interview [ http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/capt-khan-s-parents-remember-their-son-735114819550 ] she gave to MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell. As Fallows writes, she breaks down sobbing while speaking of her son. It suggests she let her husband give the DNC speech for a simple reason: she remains overwhelmed by grief.

This is the woman Trump decided to slander. This is the gauge of his cruelty.

This isn't partisan. This isn't left vs. right. Mitt Romney never would have said this. John McCain never would have said this. George W. Bush never would have said this. John Kerry never would have said this. This is what I mean when I write that the 2016 election isn't simply Democrat vs. Republican, but normal vs. abnormal. [ http://www.vox.com/2016/7/28/12281222/trump-clinton-conventions ]

I honestly do not understand how a human being can respond to a family that lost their son for this country by saying that he has sacrificed too, he’s worked really hard, he’s built "great structures," he's had "tremendous success."

This is not a question that needs to be asked in most elections, but it needs to be asked in this one: what kind of person is Donald Trump? What kind of person says these things? And is that really the kind of person we want to be president?

GO the link and Watch: this election is about normal vs. abnormal


http://www.vox.com/2016/7/30/12332922/donald-trump-khan-muslim

[StephanieVanbryce]

please Put him a cage somewhere .... where no one has to be hurt like this .... ever again.

[fuagf]

Trump just doesn't know when to stop talking

Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, told Mr. Stephanopoulos that Mr. Khan seemed like a “nice guy” and that he wished him “the best of luck.” But,
he added, “If you look at his wife, she was standing there, she had nothing to say, she probably — maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say, you tell me.”

in an election campaign .. he could actually have slipped and left his comment as a decent one,
yet no, he had to add something stupid in hopes of gaining favor with those who are doubting him ..
.. see .. http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=124216036 .. and reply.

[F6]

Paul Manafort defends Donald Trump's comments to Muslim father Khizr Khan

By Emily Schultheis
Face The Nation
July 31, 2016, 10:41 AM

Donald Trump's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, on Sunday defended the GOP nominee's comments about Muslim lawyer Khizr Khan, saying the loss of Khan's son "isn't the issue" and that the real focus should be on "radical Islamic jihad."

"Mr. Trump and all of us give him our sympathy and empathy for the loss of his son. I mean, that was a real tragedy," Manafort said on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday. "The issue is not Mr. Khan and Donald Trump, the issue really is radical Islamic jihad and the risk to the American homeland. That's the issue."

Khan, whose son Army Capt. Humayun Khan was killed in Iraq in 2004, spoke at the Democratic convention Thursday, delivering one of the most powerful moments of the convention. Asked about the speech in an interview with ABC News, Trump came under fire Saturday for his response to Khan's suggestion that he has "sacrificed nothing and no one."

In response, Trump said that he has in fact suffered: "I think I've made a lot of sacrifices," he said. "I work very, very hard."

Manafort repeatedly dodged questions about why Trump focused on Khan's wife-- "I'd like to hear his wife say something," Trump said -- by suggesting moderator John Dickerson's questions were "Clinton talking points."

"Mr. Trump was asked about Mr. Khan, he didn't raise Mr. Khan," Manafort said, asked again about why Trump responded the way he did.

Responding to questions about Trump's participation in all three presidential debates this fall, Manafort suggested the Clinton campaign was conspiring to ensure low viewership and that Trump is looking for "maximum audience participation." Trump tweeted Friday that Clinton and the Democratic Party "are trying to rig the debates so 2 are up against major NFL games." (The dates and venues for presidential debates are set by an independent commission, not either party.)

"He said he wants to participate in it but just like we discovered in the hack of the DNC, Mrs. Clinton likes low audiences watching her debates, that's what she conspired for to keep Bernie Sanders from getting a large audience," he said.

Manafort said the Trump campaign would be sitting down with the Commission on Presidential Debates to discuss the issue and make sure "there's a broad audience watching the debates."

As for concerns about Trump's ties to Russia and his past praise for Russian President Vladimir Putin, Manafort said Russia is a "threat" but refused to echo the strong criticism of the country issued by House Speaker Paul Ryan and others in the GOP.

"I think Mr. Trump has said on the campaign trail the biggest threat is failed leadership on the part of Obama and Clinton," he said. "As far as Russia or China or Syria or ISIS, they're all threats and he has said he will have a robust policy that will put America's interests first."

Face The Nation

Copyright © 2016 CBS Interactive Inc.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-defends-donald-trumps-comments-to-muslim-father-khizr-khan/ [with embedded video, and comments], http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQvLDdZV8w0 [with comments]


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Khizr Khan: Trump has a 'black soul'

July 31, 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/khizr-khan-donald-trump-black-soul/ , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOEsesmWOEw [non-YouTube version embedded; with comments]


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These Are The Sacrifices Donald Trump Has Made, According To Twitter Users

07/31/2016 Updated July 31, 2016

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Silver spoon left funny taste in mouth #TrumpSacrifices [ https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpSacrifices ]
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Silver spoon left funny taste in mouth #TrumpSacrifices

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) July 30, 2016

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#TrumpSacrifices
When he doesn't get a mint on his pillow, he calls it camping.
[ https://twitter.com/afterdroid/status/759475873779245057 ]

Once had to stand up two whole hours for a debate
#TrumpSacrifices
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Once had to stand up two whole hours for a debate
#TrumpSacrifices

— pianogirl126 (@pianogirl126) July 30, 2016

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Once slept in a three star hotel#TrumpSacrifices
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Once slept in a three star hotel#TrumpSacrifices

— Taegan Goddard (@politicalwire) July 30, 2016

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Comprehensive list of #TrumpSacrifices:
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[ https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/759549742338670592 ]

Had to buy 18 karat gold bathroom faucet handles because the gold store was all out of 24 karat #TrumpSacrifices
[ https://twitter.com/katespencer/status/759482649303879681 ]

Well, his dignity. #trumpsacrifices
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Well, his dignity. #trumpsacrifices

— Ben Greenman (@bengreenman) July 30, 2016

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"Played a municipal golf course once.. Remember when I said only rich people should be allowed to play golf"#TrumpSacrifices
[ https://twitter.com/CalebRapoport/status/759485810546610177 ]

#TrumpSacrifices Well … he sacrificed this guy

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#TrumpSacrifices Well … he sacrificed this guy pic.twitter.com/Ffd8qVKxVF

— Seth Kramer (@SethKramer) July 31, 2016

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Well, in a sense, he's sacrificing all of our futures. #TrumpSacrifices
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Well, in a sense, he's sacrificing all of our futures. #TrumpSacrifices

— Ben Greenman (@bengreenman) July 30, 2016

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Only took a loan for $1 million from his father. #TrumpSacrifices
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Only took a loan for $1 million from his father. #TrumpSacrifices

— Iggles Nest (@IgglesNest) July 30, 2016

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Only authorized to use Ted Nugent and Kid Rock songs #TrumpSacrifices
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Only authorized to use only Ted Nugent and Kid Rock songs #TrumpSacrifices

— Justin Staggs Ⓥ (@Staggfilms) July 30, 2016

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Gave up his 5 spots in the military for another 5 men. That's generous! No one thanked him #TrumpSacrifices
[ https://twitter.com/redpainter1/status/759530594392879104 ]

He sacrificed getting a competent speechwriter for his wife.#TrumpSacrifices

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He sacrificed getting a competent speechwriter for his wife.#TrumpSacrifices pic.twitter.com/i47chWd7iR

— Eric Wolfson (@EricWolfson) July 30, 2016

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"Last Tuesday, I capped my total number of verbal bigoted comments at *50* & then had to switch to only tweeting bigotry." #TrumpSacrifices
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"Last Tuesday, I capped my total number of verbal bigoted comments at *50* & then had to switch to only tweeting bigotry." #TrumpSacrifices

— Dr. Pablo Pistola (@drpablopistola) July 30, 2016

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-sacrifices-twitter_us_579d9d70e4b0e2e15eb62678 [with comments]


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