Funny you should mention that Derfie. When my son was younger he took saxophone lessons at school and I had to rent a saxophone for him. He never excelled at it and eventually gave it up. When I went to return the sax, the place was closed up tight. I think I even called the number that I had and left a few messages as to how I could get the sax back to them. I never heard from them so we had a saxophone here for about 7 years until I gave it to someone I knew who's son also decided to take lessons.