arizona1 -- we failed in 2010 and 2014 -- huge turnout failures scarcely traceable back to any one party/campaign apparatchik -- I get that you don't like Deb, she's no favorite of mine either -- but in the scope/generality of what you're blaming on her, as if she's been some critical crux/pivot point responsible for two whole national elections heading way south, I think you may be into a bit of the forest for a tree -- she just isn't and never has been that important, powerful or consequential -- has she done her job pretty poorly? -- yeah, I'd agree, not good at all -- but has she done all that much damage, all by herself, never mind everything else that's been going on in this country in the meantime? -- I'd say that's a stretch -- . . .
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