Re: Come out into the real world wanna. It is always pricing.
In the "real world", CJ, K8 became wildly popular because it had a *performance* advantage over Pentium 4. In the "real world", Intel beat the K7 not through price, but with a performance capable Northwood core. In the "real world", people buy Pentiums and Athlons, even though they are more expensive than Celerons and Semprons. That's why in the "real world", you are dead wrong when you claim it is all about price. Price/performance is more accurate, I would say, but that's been my argument all along.
Re: When HP starting using AMD across their product line and dropped the percentage of Intel, their profits and market share has gone up.
Sounds like a sound argument in favor of price/performance to me. What would possibly make you think otherwise?
Re: HP doesn't pay all that much attention to the marketing materials.
Huh? HP seems to be all about marketing these days. Didn't you notice the flood of HP marketing slides presented on *this* forum recently that proclaimed Opteron to be the best *performance* play in HP's server lineup? I guess not....
Re: The elephant in the room is the P4 products. And they aren't going away anytime soon. Given that there is a new stepping due out in September, they will be around for a long time.
Sounds good to me. The P4 is a great product, at the right price. Today, Intel sells Celerons that are basically P4 products with 75% of the cache disabled. Why not sell a P4 as a Celeron with a full 1MB of cache? It would beat anything else AMD has in the sub-$100 market, and Intel has plenty of Pentium D and Core 2 products that can cover the gamut of other price points.
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