Never disagreed that this does not occur but keyword in your statement was 'try' to get the price lower. So whether or not they are successful is another question. There will always be people trying, my point was the large float will make it harder for them to be successful.. JMO I think being successful is not to think of others as 'bashers' or 'pumpers' because that would cause you to put on blinds. Being successful would be to see the pump and not buy into it and see the bash and not sell into it. IMO.