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BBANBOB

03/27/15 2:01 PM

#418380 RE: AZCowboy #418378

IN short as I have said before many times
THEY WOULD NOT HAVE WASTED THE INK TO LIFT THE CAP , if there was no reason...... And along those same lines CENTERBRIDGE or whatever their freaking name is WOULD NOT HAVE ACCUMULATED some 800,000 K they had to dispose of either.............
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thenurseisback

03/27/15 2:10 PM

#418382 RE: AZCowboy #418378

AZCowboy

How do you feel about the recent PR and hopes for any $$$ to appear in the next month or two?

Are we as close as that or do you think we're looking at later in the year or even 2016 and beyond?

With Delaware and other items to be dealt with is it even possible with the court system always taking so long to move anything that we will see $$$ in the new to be formed LTI's this year?

One thing that stands out to me is money that may flow into LTI's will never be discussed in great detail on this board or any other.

By that I mean if I receive $1000, $100,000 or $1 million I'm certainly not going to tell anyone and furthermore who is going to believe what's written on a message board?

I could make any number up. I'm not sure if that makes sense but it's like the PIERS payments, it's been discussed that they're happening but who knows EXACTLY whose receiving what in thier own personal accounts?

Always LOVE reading your posts, you and LG are the number one reasons I haven't entirely given up hope. I'm close to it and have been many times, but everytime you post it keeps me here a little longer.

Personally I don't care about WMIH until I receive $$ for past wrongdoings, once that debt is paid I may invest and take another risk.

Thanks for your positive posts.

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ItsMyOption

03/27/15 2:26 PM

#418384 RE: AZCowboy #418378

AZ - very nicely explained RE: Absolute Priority, If anyone does not understand Absolute Priority Rule your post is a must read.

Now will wait for all that $$$ to come to me!
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Large Green

03/27/15 3:27 PM

#418392 RE: AZCowboy #418378

AzCowboy, just excellent fact finding diligence as the deeper one digs the more truth is found regarding this case but of course, legal bankruptcy specialized experts would have known this off the top of their heads. No wonder some who seem to have the answers for much of this specialized case never have this type of diligence...so hmmm, Hmmm, again, those ACTONS that I repeatedly talk about speak volumes.

Now within review of this very specialized section of the Delaware (APR) bankruptcy law one can ONLY come to one conclusion when this rarely used EXCEPTION to the APR or Absolute Priority Rules is used. The reason it is RARELY used because most seized institutions are NOT SOLVENT and in the WaMu case it was solvent by yes, there is that term again, tens of billions to the assets side versus liability side.

So without further discussion, the ONLY REASON THIS EXCEPTION to the APR is used is due to the fact there is money that flows all the way down the payout MATRIX INCLUDING EQUITY which obviously means IMHO, yes, there is that term again, TENS OF BILLIONS that will overflow-ith our BELOVED Escrow Accounts.

***AZCowboy, ONE OTHER QUESTION and this is VERY IMPORTANT***




Have I told you lately how much MORE, MORE and MORE I love my Escrow Tracking Markers and IMHO, soon to be issued LTIs?
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investorhub123

03/27/15 3:48 PM

#418399 RE: AZCowboy #418378

Thanks for sharing AZ......

This to me is the only thing I need to see to believe that escrows will be paid in cash.....
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clawmann

03/27/15 3:57 PM

#418405 RE: AZCowboy #418378

AZ, I am not going to answer that point by point, but let's just say that I absolutely disagree. There was no cramdown. Absolute priority was varied because the classes negatively affected by the variance agreed to it. And that is a permisible outcome under the code.

Edited to add: it never ceases to amaze me how many folks embrace your analysis for no other reason than it supports the viewpoint that the variance was agreed to because there is a large payout coming.

I can hear you typing furiously all the way over here......



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chaarles

03/27/15 5:22 PM

#418418 RE: AZCowboy #418378

The Debtors, the judge, the other classes and of course the EC were in agreement to eliminate APR but the most telling for me is that the TPS or REITS did agree to elimination of APR. I truly believe that if REITS counsel didn't clearly know that REITS would get FV or more on their securities they would have never agreed on eliminating the APR, why to do so? why to share one single penny with commons?