Hi Sunscents, Sorry I haven't been checking into Ihub daily any longer because I just don't know what to expect from everyone here. I am a novice at best with this stuff and don't fare very well with it. I did hope TBEV was going to be big cause I am big into fitness and would've been easy for me to be excited. This kinda sucks now!! Well, when this all flushes out maybe I will be able to try and flip... We'll see... Anyway, hopefully something good will happen with TBEV and the products it reps!!