Hey reaper247. Thanks for the insights. Charts can and will lull a person to sleep or whatever. I think there are points of interest on a chart. A good long term chart can really tell the story. Daily and less are more for entries exits imo. The story being printed or reported or spread about message boards or whatever is not something to give weight when attempting to make money. The story is there for someone to sell or take something from you. That's what I was referring to. I love to do research, but the chart and supply/ demand are as far as you need to go. I read kipplingers, Forbes, Morningstar and even those reputable sources are wrong all the time. It seems it's always a pump to sell to us. Funny thing is even the folks that get predictions right are just predicting on borrowed time. Learning the signs in the candles is the best way to see what's going on. IMHO everyone trades differently so glta.