Replies to post #228630 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[SilverSurfer]

LDi's big finish at the UN was to end tax breaks for oil companies...

gov may want to load even more consumer and job smashing penalties on energy but

so-called tax breaks the industry would lose are not specific to oil and gas at all. They are widely available to lots of industries

Section 199 is part of the domestic production activities deduction that was included in the American Job Creation Act of 2004, which passed with strong bipartisan support, especially in the Senate. It currently provides a 9% tax deduction from net income for businesses engaged in "qualified production activities" in the U.S. Those activities include manufacturing a product, selling, leasing or licensing it, and engineering and software activities related to that production. The deduction was intended to encourage domestic manufacturing, and in the hope that the tax break could provide a slight competitive advantage against foreign competition.

The oil and gas industry, especially in its extracting and refining, is heavily involved in U.S. manufacturing. Congress already penalizes the industry by only giving it a 6% deduction, rather than the 9% that other industries receive.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324789504578380684292877300

[DesertDrifter]

your bullshit about wildfires is totally in error. if you go your "link" and go to the live link that supposedly goes to NIFC, (national interagency fire center), the link goes to a chinese site that is dead. you waste everyone's time when you just point to lies, since you have no credibility to start with.

the number of fires isn't even a relevant statistic anyway. your propaganda rag ignores the fact that the IMPACT from wildfires is measured in acres burned annually. wildfire's impact is measured by size of fires, acreage burned. you can have a thousand fires that are 10 feet by 10 feet due to lightning on wet fuelbeds and it has about zero impact compared to one 200,000 acre wind-driven stand replacement event. and the annual acreage burned has not declined, in fact it has escalated. you and your "source" are full of shit.

long term averages of acres burned is about 4 to 5 million acres annually. in recent years such as 2012, 9 million acres plus were burned.

remember, the significance of wildfire to your "point" is how much area is burned in terms of impact. try some facts on for size, instead of your dead links and blatant distortions.

http://wildland-fires.findthebest.com/

[DesertDrifter]

from your fabrication source:

Aren’t wildfires getting worse?


Spanish researchers confirmed climate change not to blame for increased forest fires. “The change in the occurrence of fires that are recorded in the historical research cannot be explained by the gradual change in climate,” they reported. Instead, it “corresponds to changes in the availability of fuel, the use of sources of energy and the continuity of the landscape.” In the United States, wildfires are also due to a failure to thin forests or remove dead and diseased trees – due largely to environmentalist protests and lawsuits.

Good grief... "Spanish researchers"? who the hell are they and what is their evidence? More like another Koch colonoscopy source, which is to you the mother ship i guess. Yes, the fuelbeds are in worse condition than they have been for awhile, but when you point to 50 years ago, as you did, at that time logging slash was hip deep on millions of acres, mostly due to unregulated logging on private land that was clearcut and abandoned. but if the present fuelbeds weren't dryer than a popcorn fart, they wouldn't burn. Overprotection of forests that are dynamic in nature contribute to wildfire intensity, but when the weather is cooler and moister, fire intensity is low and one can have a 100,000 acre fire that does minimal damage, in fact, is how the forests evolved here, and is the natural selective pressure. Hotter and drier summers mean fires burn hotter, outside the ecological amplitude so they do major damage and take out whole landscapes. And if you hadn't noticed, the summers haven't been cooler and moister in the west as a trend.

Your trying to deflect your blatant lies and distortions with a blast of "questions" from your soapbox files is really pretty comical.