Well, I think we can all agree on the fact that HPNN is a real company. Microsoft has a proven history of only issuing licenses to real companies. It may take a little while longer, but I think Michaels will take us into penny land just as soon as the China pipe starts flowing. Yada, yada, yada....yeah, we know he's mostly unscrupulous....but I'm only looking for hundreds of thousands in profits...not millions....lol