I hear ya... I understand what you are saying. I am more than anxious to connect potential to actual.... In that stream, frustration is a key word... It is clear to me that flipping is continuously occurring here... This guy- Fred. I am sure he's a nice old school guy... It may help him and the valuation of his company that he lean a little bit new school. Higher valuation will allow him to work some deals at a cheaper cost if necessary... Sigh.... Who knows anything really.